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HoloDust said:

I grew up with it, I saw it first on TV...I think it was late 70s or, maybe 80/81. I've only saw it in theater much, much later, maybe late 90s, I caught some screening, and that by accident.

I really liked the ball, though honestly, I've always looked at it as fun distraction. But the Bomb...now, with that, I was fascinated.

Everything, everything outside of the distraction of the ball is peak writing/design. I especially like the song Benson, Arizona that was written for the movie. It is one of my favorite country songs ever recorded. It’s a shame you’ll never hear it on the radio. 

I’ve never had a chance to see it in the theater but when I do I’m there. My first copy was on VHS but I got it on DVD a few years later. Might have to pick up the Blu ray if I see it. 

Sci-fi film festivals and retrospectives (which is where I watched it) is probably only chance to catch it in the theater...unless it's Carpenter's retrospective, I guess.

And yeah, Benson, Arizona is such a great tune...it always somewhat reminded me of Gram Parsons' Return of the Grievous Angel, which is one of my favourite country songs, from about the same period.



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Paperboy_J said:

Fifth Element wasn't bad just cheesy as hell. Tacky costumes, goofy characters, but that doesn't necessarily mean "bad."

Even the costume and character choices weren't bad, as in accident. This was all made on purpose. Costume design is from Jean Paul-Gautier - one of the top fashion designer. You can be sure he didn't design the costumes tacky on accident, Luc Besson asked for tacky costumes as a choice for some of the characters.



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Mnementh said:
Paperboy_J said:

Fifth Element wasn't bad just cheesy as hell. Tacky costumes, goofy characters, but that doesn't necessarily mean "bad."

Even the costume and character choices weren't bad, as in accident. This was all made on purpose. Costume design is from Jean Paul-Gautier - one of the top fashion designer. You can be sure he didn't design the costumes tacky on accident, Luc Besson asked for tacky costumes as a choice for some of the characters.

Yeah, I guess this is somewhat of a cultural thing and why it fared much better internationally (~ $200M) than in US (~ $63M).

I love pretty much everything about that film, over the top popcorn flick that it is.



Films often labeled bad, but I don't agree

Even just for the cast of Alien 4. I don't think this film is bad, but it often gets the label. If anything, I'd call it the best of the Alien films not by Cameron or Scott, some would say Romulus, but that one wasn't my sort of film.

This one was made with barely a script (strike) and is quite over the top. But if you like 1980s action, particularly those like Commando, then this one might be for you. The action scenes are fast and definitive... a bit of a different pace than the films today that just keep trying to replicate Helm's Deep with their 40 minute action sequences, and don't really capture the same spirit.

Big fan of Verhoeven... this is the only scene I think I can show, but it passes the Beckdel test. Verhoeven's films all have a streak of the hyperbole, satire, and dark comedy, and apart from guys like the Coens, Gilliam, De Palma, and I can't think of anyone else offhand who does it as well... Oliver Stone?

And virtually the entire genre of raunchy comedy that doesn't include some sort of a moral lesson... The endings of The Girl Next Door and No Hard Feelings made me wanna puke... somehow this changes a 40% on Rotten Tomatoes into an 85. I don't hate those films with the moral endings, I just don't particularly like the endings. 

The Asylum Mockbusters

But now we get into the films that are actually bad. So what's an Asylum Mockbuster? They're B-comedy films that roughly resemble a genre or film in the blockbuster genre. They're made by the production studio The Asylum which has pumped out hundreds of these sorts of films over the last 20 years. They began a little earlier than this; in the 1990s they focused on teen horror and teen films... then gradually morphed into zombie, vampire, and Grimm Tale parodies by the mid-2000s. The one continuous thread is that they're B-film comedies, often in the teen, slasher, or monster sub-genre. Then they discovered the shitty shark films, and released their first one in 2009, Mega Shark vs Giant Octopus.

It got rotten reviews, but attracted one of their largest audiences ever... so they continued, and made about 50 more shark-type films over the next few years. Hitting the peak of their popularity between about 2011 and 2013.

In 2012, they released Two-Headed Shark Attack, a shark mutated by pollution to have double the heads and two-hundred times the appetite. This is IMO, the crown jewel, their shitty masterpiece.

But their most popular one was still to come, pushing the ridiculousness further, the following year (2013) they released Sharknado, which was their most commercially successful film, but IMO, that's when they "jumped the shark" (for lack of a better phrase)... maybe that was the point! But by about 2015 or 2016 these films began disappearing from streaming services. In 2016, all their films made went up on Netflix or some other service, but in 2017, almost none of them went up. I think people just got sick of them.



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Tubi is the go to app for movies that are horrible but enjoyable. I think my favorite find was The Lost Skeleton of Cadavra.

But between horrible disaster movies and b-rate horror, it’s such a fun place to find bad movies.

I just watched Until Dawn on Netflix though. I liked it more than I should have. Sort of like a bad Cabin in the Woods mixed with the concept of Edge of Tomorrow but nowhere near as polished as either.



Jane Austen's Mafia! is a great slapstick comedy.

The new Naked Gun was also pretty good, snowman scene was outright amazing.



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My Dad was a huge fan of these kind of flicks, so I grew up watching a ton of them; Santa Claus Conquers the Martians, Plan 9 from Outer Space, Battlefield Earth, Jaws the Revenge, Barbarella, that kind of stuff. Had a soft spot for cheesy nonsense ever since.

Deep Rising, Tank Girl, Godzilla Final Wars, The 7th Curse, and The Sword Stained with Royal Blood are among the best I've seen, just in terms of being pure outrageous cheese.