Disgusted...and some even laugh.
When will the people wake up,the left is out of control.
The western world is falling,and falling fast.
Disgusted...and some even laugh.
When will the people wake up,the left is out of control.
The western world is falling,and falling fast.
curl-6 said:
Too soon to say, his killer has yet to be identified, much less their motive. |
Either:
A - The farmer put down their own dog for some odd reason
or
B - The neighbor got tired of the farmers dog barking and put the 'mutt' down
- The farmer is a good shot and knows to aim for the chest or head, and wouldn't miss and hit the neck from that close.
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| shavenferret said: They should have conceal carried so that the gunman could be taken care of quickly. If people knew that others carried and would defend each other then this kind of violence would stop happening. |
I'm pretty sure Utah Valley University allows conceal carry with a permit. The person used a sniper from a rooftop. Open carry didn't change anything and we have seen in other instances it really never does.
angrypoolman said:
I can at least confidently say that there is not a single person in american politics (my home country) where I would celebrate this, say this is deserved, or not feel any sort of sympathy/empathy for them or their family. not one. and thats an easy call to make. |
Read my post again. The extreme case for that absolute isn't the worst person *in American politics* *today*, it's the worst person anywhere ever. You can argue that you shouldn't celebrate the death of any current political figures in America, but that is subjective as long as you concede that there has been a person in history whose death is celebratable. An absolute is called an absolute because it has no conditions.
Since the absolute is not true, one has to provide reasons as to why his death should not be celebrated–and grapple with the reasons why it would–instead of just shutting people down with bullshit faux-empathic aphorisms and refusing to think any further about it.

Chris Hu said:
Jeff Grubb did not make that joke he just reposted a joke made by someone else and it's on point. Anyway, if you live by the sword, you will die by the sword. |
It is in bad taste to joke about and/or repost jokes about a family man in his early 30s with wife and kids, getting shot to death, just because he disagreed with you on some topic, like covid vaccines.
Also, Charlie did not live by the sword. He advocated for the rule of law and for free speech. The deranged shooter broke the former and dealt a big blow to the latter. It is somewhat ironic of course to be shot while advocating for the 2nd amendment. But it is far from deserved. If Charlie reaped what he sowed, he would still be able to have open good faith dialogues with people all around.
| xl-klaudkil said: Disgusted...and some even laugh. |
A democrat politician, her husband, and dog were killed at their home by a right wing nut job wearing a police uniform earlier this year. This guy had a hit list of democrat politicians. Republicans didn't say anything to condone this, including the president. In fact, they tried to lie about the situation like they do.
The number of far right attacks and shootings is much greater than far left attacks. Statistics back this up.
Regarding this situation, I've seen some random people celebrate it but the vast majority have spoken out against this like; Obama, Newsom, and many of the biggest left leaning politicians and influences. I find this to be disgusting even though I really didn't like him.
Lucca said:
Read my post again. The extreme case for that absolute isn't the worst person *in American politics* *today*, it's the worst person anywhere ever. You can argue that you shouldn't celebrate the death of any current political figures in America, but that is subjective as long as you concede that there has been a person in history whose death is celebratable. An absolute is called an absolute because it has no conditions. Since the absolute is not true, one has to provide reasons as to why his death should not be celebrated–and grapple with the reasons why it would–instead of just shutting people down with bullshit faux-empathic aphorisms and refusing to think any further about it. |
yes dude I know what you said. i was not arguing against it. i was narrowing the scope of the sentiment because it is only sensible to do so. I am not going to compare today's current american politicians and political commentators to political leaders in other countries that spew rhetoric im not familiar with, I am going to compare him to his peers because that is the only sensible thing to do. the point you are making is not profound at all. of course there are people we would celebrate the death of, such as scum bags who murder innocent women trying to take public transit home after a day of work.
i would never wish this on somebody who i have a political disagreement with, no matter how much I thought their rhetoric harms society. do you know why? because I understand that people argue for the things they do because they believe if more people adopt their viewpoint, it will be better for society. thats why people engage in political discourse. its all for this same exact reason.
I dont care how much you disagree with the things he said, if you are going to excuse this and give us all this mental exercise to imagine the worst person we can and celebrate their death in order to provide cover who are doing the same for charlie kirk because "they are just using a different yardstick" or whatever, then that speaks more about who you are and what you are about than it does about charlie kirk, because he would never, ever go that low.
Last edited by angrypoolman - on 11 September 2025Ryuu96 posted the DT address to the nation about the CK murder. It looks odd because it's AI. Trump probably can't make a speech anymore and appear well-spoken enough for himself even with a teleprompter. So, he needs to cheat a bit.
| shavenferret said: Ryuu96 posted the DT address to the nation about the CK murder. It looks odd because it's AI. Trump probably can't make a speech anymore and appear well-spoken enough for himself even with a teleprompter. So, he needs to cheat a bit. |
Yeah was just about to update on that.
Here's the vid for those curious:
| angrypoolman said: I dont care how much you disagree with the things he said, if you are going to excuse this and give us all this mental exercise to imagine the worst person we can and celebrate their death in order to provide cover who are doing the same for charlie kirk because "they are just using a different yardstick" or whatever, then that speaks more about who you are and what you are about than it does about charlie kirk, because he would never, ever go that low. |
He definitely would go that low, wishing to bail out the Paul Pelosi attacker:
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/charlie-kirk-bail-out-alleged-paul-pelosi-attacker-1234621493/
He also repeatedly lied about how George Floyd died.
Maybe I am in minority, but I think lying about how someone died is much more disgusting than celebrating their death, if I am being honest.