Nice to see this thread is still open for discussion.
So many sad events and lives lost needlessly.
Talking it out is the way to solutions.
Not controlling a narrative.
Peace be with you.

Always.

Yeah, you're right and Franklin was right. However there are times when SOMETHING needs to be done, a plan needs to be formed as was the case when Americas founding father's were alive with issues of those days and things change massively, they could never have envisioned transport running almost automatically under the ground right through the night at all hours. I'm sorry but safety needs to be taken into account. 

Now, as @SvennoJ said getting to the route of the problem would be ideal but that would span decades of work and planning. We in Europe didn't get there over night and we are still faaaar from having some perfect system implemented, it's far better imo but in that gap something radical is needed for sealing the problem to avoid more violence and death. I do understand your point and it's right, Aitport security never went back to the way it was before 9/11... idk, the answer and I'm a avid reader of dystopian Sci Fi so I know all the risks and all the pit falls but when attempting to solve a problem, you have to start somewhere. 

What could more police presence have done in this instance though?
Metal detectors at every entrance to make sure no knives get on a train? 

If video surveillance everywhere is already no deterrent, what would a few cops on a train be? Even a cop in every car would not have been able to prevent this attack. It's all nothing but security theater. 

For 'it' to be effective, mental unstable and prior convicted people would need to be flagged and tracked with AI surveillance, alerting police presence of their movements so they can closely watch/follow them around. Next to tracking everyone's social media to flag potential trouble to add to the watch list. Do you want to open that Pandora's box? 

That's what's needed to make a police state actually work, assuming the enforcers don't go 'off the rails' themselves. 


No you have to start at the source. Health care, education, rehabilitation. Correctional facilities need to actually be correctional, not just punitive.


Meanwhile there were some 1500 deaths by stabbing in 2024, Amtrak alone had 32.8 million passenger trips in 2024, 1.1 Billion subway rides in NY in 2023.

https://www.vitalcitynyc.org/articles/how-rare-is-crime-on-the-subway

Regardless of one’s interpretation, for any individual ride on the subway, it’s extremely unlikely that a reported violent crime will occur. For the sake of comparison, consider the average risk of injury or death from a car accident in the U.S. In 2022, American drivers faced about a one-in-one-million risk of injury or death for every mile driven — roughly equal to the violent index crime risk from a single ride on the subway in 2023. And yet one is hard-pressed to find news articles about Americans who are hesitant to drive one mile for fear of injury or death. So why has there been such a focus on the subway system? 

Trains/Subways are still much safer than driving or being a passenger in a car. (or stage coaches back in the day of the founding fathers lol)


Another wise man once said, the only thing to fear is fear itself. (Roosevelt) Fear is the tool to let your freedom be taken away willingly. The solution is not more cops, the solution is fixing society. Social education so people interact with each other again instead of ignoring what's happening right next to them. People seem to be always afraid of each other nowadays, just as the elite like it.

The crime rate has dropped precipitously in the past 40 years. Is that of any comfort to the family of Ms. Zarutska? Almost certainly not. There isn't much that's going to bring comfort to them. Still does not justify a military crackdown. 

Too many times in the past, actions taken in the name of "public safety" have resulted in widespread horror down the road. Former Philippine president Rodrigo Duterte is currently standing trial in Den Haag for the extrajudicial killings of 6,252 people that took place under his regime, without due process, allegedly for drugs, and that's just the ones he boasted about with his whole chest. The true death toll is estimated at closer to 30,000 people, killed with no due process, only on accusations of being drug users or dealers. Trump admired Duterte at first, and would no doubt be threatening Den Haag with sanctions had Duterte not later pushed away from the United States in favor of closer ties with China.  

Another problem is, the people who want martial law, generally only want martial law for other people, not themselves. These people who bravely support military crackdowns tend to change their tunes in a hurry when they're the ones being confronted by men in camo with fully loaded carbines and Glock 19s. People in Fort Worth, Texas, were no doubt gleeful over the prospect of troops walking the streets of Chicago (which has been put on hold for now because Pritzker was apparently able to tell Trump "no" in a way that let Trump know he meant it), but I doubt they'd be happy if those same troops were patrolling the streets of Fort Worth, especially if those patrols were being ordered by Democratic officials or indeed, anybody from outside of Texas.  And Fort Worth has a higher violent crime rate than the national average.

Better not to go down that road in the name of "safety." 

Or just keep them locked up forever.

If a person can get arrested for assault like 14 times and still walk the streets, something is very wrong.
That was over a periode of like 7 years or something right?
Yeah no... he should have served life time in jail, kept away from innocent people.
This guy is obviously too dangerous to allow to go about outsides.
Him seeing a councilor, or shrink, isn't going to do much of anything.... or getting that as a "punishment" for his crimes.
Its too soft, and wont have much of a effect.  
Ei. I think this person is not someone able to see any benefit from rehabilitation.
Thus the only other solution is to just keep him locked away from others.

Trump is pushing for the death penalty.... something I'm not for (2 wrongs don't make a right).
However this person should probably be locked up for the rest of his life.

Posted in wrong thread.

He wasn't arrested for assault 14 times. He was arrested for various crimes including assault over a period of 18 years. Running through the crimes

-Simple Assault

-Disorderly Conducy

-Resisting a Police Officer

-Communicating Threats

-Driving 22 over the speed limit

-Shoplifting

-Failing to Show up in Court

-Larceny, Breaking and Entering (30 days jail time)

- Assault and Robbery with a dangerous weapon (5 years in prison)

Arrested 3 times with no charges filed. 1 of these is noted as an arrest for assault on a female.

-Misuse of 911

Only 3 actual instanes of assault, in 2007, 2014, and 2022 and 1 threat. Obviously he is a bad dude, but I'd hardly say 3 assaults is deserving of life in jail and don't make assumptions

This is a classic situation of little information and a whole lot of opinions that seem to happen a lot with stories like this. On one hand we find out that this man has had 14 felony convictions and on the other people assumed that all 14 were assault.

North Carolina passes "Iryna's Law" in response, which "focuses on eliminating cashless bail for many crimes, limiting the discretion that magistrates and judges have in making pretrial release decisions, and laying out when offenders should be examined for possible involuntary commitment."

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/09/23/us/iryna-zarutska-north-carolina-light-rail-stabbing

Her killer, Decarlos Brown, has been indicted by a federal grand jury and could be facing the death penalty:

https://nypost.com/2025/10/22/us-news/iryna-zarutskas-accused-killer-decarlos-brown-jr-indicted-after-gruesome-charlotte-train-stabbing/