SvennoJ said:
LegitHyperbole said:
Yeah, you're right and Franklin was right. However there are times when SOMETHING needs to be done, a plan needs to be formed as was the case when Americas founding father's were alive with issues of those days and things change massively, they could never have envisioned transport running almost automatically under the ground right through the night at all hours. I'm sorry but safety needs to be taken into account.ÂÂ
Now, as @SvennoJ said getting to the route of the problem would be ideal but that would span decades of work and planning. We in Europe didn't get there over night and we are still faaaar from having some perfect system implemented, it's far better imo but in that gap something radical is needed for sealing the problem to avoid more violence and death. I do understand your point and it's right, Aitport security never went back to the way it was before 9/11... idk, the answer and I'm a avid reader of dystopian Sci Fi so I know all the risks and all the pit falls but when attempting to solve a problem, you have to start somewhere.ÂÂ
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What could more police presence have done in this instance though?
Metal detectors at every entrance to make sure no knives get on a train?Â
If video surveillance everywhere is already no deterrent, what would a few cops on a train be? Even a cop in every car would not have been able to prevent this attack. It's all nothing but security theater.Â
For 'it' to be effective, mental unstable and prior convicted people would need to be flagged and tracked with AI surveillance, alerting police presence of their movements so they can closely watch/follow them around. Next to tracking everyone's social media to flag potential trouble to add to the watch list. Do you want to open that Pandora's box?Â
That's what's needed to make a police state actually work, assuming the enforcers don't go 'off the rails' themselves.Â
No you have to start at the source. Health care, education, rehabilitation. Correctional facilities need to actually be correctional, not just punitive.
Meanwhile there were some 1500 deaths by stabbing in 2024, Amtrak alone had 32.8 million passenger trips in 2024, 1.1 Billion subway rides in NY in 2023.
https://www.vitalcitynyc.org/articles/how-rare-is-crime-on-the-subway
Regardless of one’s interpretation, for any individual ride on the subway, it’s extremely unlikely that a reported violent crime will occur. For the sake of comparison, consider the average risk of injury or death from a car accident in the U.S. In 2022, American drivers faced about a one-in-one-million risk of injury or death for every mile driven — roughly equal to the violent index crime risk from a single ride on the subway in 2023. And yet one is hard-pressed to find news articles about Americans who are hesitant to drive one mile for fear of injury or death. So why has there been such a focus on the subway system?Â
Trains/Subways are still much safer than driving or being a passenger in a car. (or stage coaches back in the day of the founding fathers lol)
Another wise man once said, the only thing to fear is fear itself. (Roosevelt) Fear is the tool to let your freedom be taken away willingly. The solution is not more cops, the solution is fixing society. Social education so people interact with each other again instead of ignoring what's happening right next to them. People seem to be always afraid of each other nowadays, just as the elite like it.
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