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IcaroRibeiro said:
KLXVER said:

Then why are some trans people angry when others dont call them by their gender? I mean if you believe in the definition of sex, then if you call a trans woman a woman, then wouldnt that make you a sexist?

Here, we are diverging from the sociological definition and entering the more political side of things: the trans community (or trans movement) seeks recognition of the gender they identify with

Gender appears to be a deep part of human identity, which is why, in general, the medical field believes it's better to let trans people live as the gender they identify with. The psychological harm of forcing them to live otherwise can be significant. Refusing to treat a trans man as a man means you do not respect his right to self-identify, and this is definitely perceived by many (if not all) as a microaggression 

What about narcissistic people? Should we always agree that they are the best at everything? I mean it could make them sad if we say otherwise.

Or what about compulsive liars? Should we always accept what they say as truths?

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KLXVER said:

What about narcisstic people? Should we always agree that they are the best at everything? I mean it could make them sad if we say otherwise.

What has narcisistic people to do with trans people and how invoking them in this debate has any meaning? 

I simply recognizing trans women as women really harmful in any way? I'm not even getting into more divisive debates, like whether they should be allowed in female sports just accepting their right to self-identify. Would that really be so bad?

It's not like being trans is some kind of personality disorder that's harmful in itself or needs to be controlled. There are documented cases of trans people existing in many cultures also. At this point, we should just acknowledge that it's a human condition like IDK, red hair? I can understand why society struggles with the implications of trans people existing, especially when so many of our core social structures, like family and marriage, are built on gender binarism. But at the very least, being civil toward trans people is something we should all agree on



IcaroRibeiro said:
KLXVER said:

What about narcisstic people? Should we always agree that they are the best at everything? I mean it could make them sad if we say otherwise.

What has narcisistic people to do with trans people and how invoking them in this debate has any meaning? 

I simply recognizing trans women as women really harmful in any way? I'm not even getting into more divisive debates, like whether they should be allowed in female sports just accepting their right to self-identify. Would that really be so bad?

It's not like being trans is some kind of personality disorder that's harmful in itself or needs to be controlled. There are documented cases of trans people existing in many cultures also. At this point, we should just acknowledge that it's a human condition like IDK, red hair? I can understand why society struggles with the implications of trans people existing, especially when so many of our core social structures, like family and marriage, are built on gender binarism. But at the very least, being civil toward trans people is something we should all agree on

As long as the trans person is acting civil back and not creating a scene because you accidentally misgendered them, then sure. We should all be civil.

I just think we should be civil to every person. Even the ones you disagree with politically. Its not easy, but its something we should all strive for.

Like with abortion. I just dont understand why some people cant see both sides of this issue. One side want women to have the choice to do with their bodies what they want and the other dont want soon-to-be people killed. Its ok to understand both sides and not have the answer for everything.



I do think it’s telling how the people who believe this is a win for the left, because “they all believe in facts or in a set truth/morale” or whatever else they claim, don’t realize that everyone believing in the same thing is the major feature in “cult” behavior, as others in this thread said the right is.

Cult thought processes do not allow for diversity of thought.



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Paatar said:

I do think it's telling how the people who believe this is a win for the left, because âœthey all believe in facts or in a set truth/morale” or whatever else they claim, don’t realize that everyone believing in the same thing is the major feature in “cult” behavior, as others in this thread said the right is.

Cult thought processes do not allow for diversity of thought.

Correlating shared understanding with cult behaviour isn't saying much in itself. I'm sure almost everyone here believes the earth is round, but that doesn't make the uniformity around such belief "cult-like". It's just evidence based, so why would there be lots of deviation if the evidence points squarely at a clear answer?

I'd say cults are more defined by blind faith in ideas (sometimes just to be part of an accepted group), regardless of whether they cause more harm then good. Regardless of whether evidence supports it or not. By extension of this, A Cult-like thought process disregards evidence based systems to inform evolving strategies and behaviours.

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Ryuu96 said:
ArchangelMadzz said:

Why are we using the framing of right wing weirdos on a study that doesn't make such claim?

This was mapping the responses to 8 questions:
Should abortion be illegal?
Should the government take steps to make incomes more equal?
Should all unauthorized immigrants be sent back to their home country?
Should the federal budget for welfare programs be increased?
Should lesbian, gay, and trans couples be allowed to legally marry?
Should the government regulate business to protect the environment?
Should the federal government make it more difficult to buy a gun?
Should the federal government make a concerted effort to improve social and economic conditions for African Americans?

This is just an indication on responses to these questions and nothing else.
*the claim "the right has more diversity of thought than the left" isn't even asserted by the study itself*

If I asked 1000 people a question on "should slavery come back" and group A all said no and group B had a wide range of Yes, No and Maybe, I wouldn't frame the results as "Group B has more diversity of thought" unless I obviously had some agenda behind it because that's not the conclusion nor what the people who wrote the study even said.

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Man...I should have checked the thread before making my post, you beat me to it, Lol.

Haha your response was far more comprehensive than mine at least, it's just it's not the first time I've seen this brain-dead interpretation of this study so I wanted to be as short as possible. And it definitely won't be the last.



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Paatar said:

I do think it’s telling how the people who believe this is a win for the left, because “they all believe in facts or in a set truth/morale” or whatever else they claim, don’t realize that everyone believing in the same thing is the major feature in “cult” behavior, as others in this thread said the right is.

Cult thought processes do not allow for diversity of thought.

Let me give you an example. The question is “Should Pedophilia be a criminal offense?”

Group 1(Non-pedophiles) will say yes, pretty much unanimously.

Group 2(pedophiles) will very likely give you a range of opinions.

By your definition Non-pedophiles are exhibiting cult-like behaviour and Pedophiles have a much better diversity of thought.

So, perhaps the value of “Diversity of thought” is determined entirely by the question and is not some universally positive thing.





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A well-executed trap thread, curl-6.

At least that's what I would say if I were confident that you didn't believe in such nonsense yourself, and all because some left people on the internet said mean things to you.



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Interesting research, the result is more or less what I would expect as a result although this is actually more severe than I initially though.
Just wonder how the study was done though, really easy nowadays to get to incorrect and biased conclusions depending on how the study/research was performed.