Gamepass is never going to become the "Netflix of gaming".
It's been 8 years now since the service launched, it's clear by this point that most of the gaming audience just isn't that interested in an expensive online rental service.
Gamepass also trained the Xbox player base to not actually buy games, undermining software sales.
Last edited by curl-6 - on 20 June 2025
| curl-6 said: Gamepass is never going to become the "Netflix of gaming". It's been 8 years now since the service launched, it's clear by this point that most of the gaming audience just isn't that interested in an expensive online rental service, especially for a moribund brand. Gamepass also trained the Xbox player base to not actually buy games, undermining software sales. |
I agree but its also relative. Selling 30-40m of a premium subscription service whilst also being the biggest publisher on Playstation and potentially the market as a whole, is maybe better than being the netflix of gaming.
For sure with the Switch 2 added to the equation Xbox's future in terms of revenue is looking healthy. Will just take them a while to recoup their expenditure during this whole transition phase
Pemalite said:
Steam has absolutely been bizarre. |
And on top of that, there are millions mad at them for not releasing the next Half Life, for annoying every Counter Strike fan with how they handle that franchise (especially the cheater situation and Counter Strike 2 in general) and yet nothing is gonna stop them lol.
"Moving forward, AMD will go beyond building custom chips for Xbox consoles to designing a full roadmap of gaming-optimized chips. Combining the power of Ryzen and Radeon for consoles, handhelds, PCs, and the cloud."
"Together, we are building a vibrant, open ecosystem that delivers the next generation of graphics and immersive gameplay powered by AI that includes new foundational models to accelerate the state of the art in rendering."
"From console to cloud to handheld, AMD and Microsoft are building the future of immersive gaming. We are so excited to be working with Microsoft to bring all of this tech to gamers everywhere."
Lisa Su, Chair and CEO of AMD
| HoloDust said: "Moving forward, AMD will go beyond building custom chips for Xbox consoles to designing a full roadmap of gaming-optimized chips. Combining the power of Ryzen and Radeon for consoles, handhelds, PCs, and the cloud." "Together, we are building a vibrant, open ecosystem that delivers the next generation of graphics and immersive gameplay powered by AI that includes new foundational models to accelerate the state of the art in rendering." "From console to cloud to handheld, AMD and Microsoft are building the future of immersive gaming. We are so excited to be working with Microsoft to bring all of this tech to gamers everywhere." Lisa Su, Chair and CEO of AMD |
Lot of buzzwords and PR Talk, but talk is cheap and it will be challenging for them to deliver a "next gen" leap with diminishing returns kicking in hard these days.
Will be interesting to see what they're actually able to deliver.
curl-6 said:
Lot of buzzwords and PR Talk, but talk is cheap and it will be challenging for them to deliver a "next gen" leap with diminishing returns kicking in hard these days. Will be interesting to see what they're actually able to deliver. |
Next gen hardware will be fairly different than what is available currently - accent is on RT and AI in GFX pipeline, and AI enhancements throughout the whole game pipeline.
| HoloDust said: "Moving forward, AMD will go beyond building custom chips for Xbox consoles to designing a full roadmap of gaming-optimized chips. Combining the power of Ryzen and Radeon for consoles, handhelds, PCs, and the cloud." "Together, we are building a vibrant, open ecosystem that delivers the next generation of graphics and immersive gameplay powered by AI that includes new foundational models to accelerate the state of the art in rendering." "From console to cloud to handheld, AMD and Microsoft are building the future of immersive gaming. We are so excited to be working with Microsoft to bring all of this tech to gamers everywhere." Lisa Su, Chair and CEO of AMD |
I'm honestly excited to see what AI can do to make gameplay more immersive.
| curl-6 said: Gamepass is never going to become the "Netflix of gaming". It's been 8 years now since the service launched, it's clear by this point that most of the gaming audience just isn't that interested in an expensive online rental service. Gamepass also trained the Xbox player base to not actually buy games, undermining software sales. |
Netflix is available on way more devices and more accessible with streaming. If Game Pass was on Playstation and Nintendo systems, subs would likely be upwards of 80 million by now.
Game Pass can and is considered the "Netflix of gaming" key word: Gaming. Not of all entrainment. As, Otter said, it's all relative to the medium.
smroadkill15 said:
Netflix is available on way more devices and more accessible with streaming. If Game Pass was on Playstation and Nintendo systems, subs would likely be upwards of 80 million by now. Game Pass can and is considered the "Netflix of gaming" key word: Gaming. Not of all entrainment. As, Otter said, it's all relative to the medium. |
Agreed. Game Pass is limited to Xbox in the console space. Add in Nintendo and PlayStation and it would probably get 10 million more subs to the current 35 million or so.
Lifetime Sales Predictions
Switch: 161 million (was 73 million, then 96 million, then 113 million, then 125 million, then 144 million, then 151 million, then 156 million)
PS5: 122 million (was 105 million, then 115 million) Xbox Series X/S: 38 million (was 60 million, then 67 million, then 57 million. then 48 million. then 40 million)
Switch 2: 120 million (was 116 million)
PS4: 120 mil (was 100 then 130 million, then 122 million) Xbox One: 51 mil (was 50 then 55 mil)
3DS: 75.5 mil (was 73, then 77 million)
"Let go your earthly tether, enter the void, empty and become wind." - Guru Laghima
Game Pass won't reach Netflix numbers because almost everyone on this planet watches movies and/or shows but many who play games just play smartphone games and some don't game at all.
But that doesn't mean it can't be the "Netflix of gaming"
Netflix also needed many years to reach like 50m users and that with streaming movies...
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