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Jaicee said:

[...too long to cite, sorry, but I swear I read it all...]

1.
"I have to focus on my own mental health and well-being because it is deteriorating."
Yes, do that! I say that politics is no reason to destroy ones own well-being. Not because it is unimportant, politics can majorly impact our lives. It is because you cannot substantially influence it as a single, not rich and powerful person. You have only very little impact. So tearing yourself down is like yelling at clouds because it rains. Instead you should open an umbrella. Which means care for yourself and your friends and family first.

2.
Even though the result may seem depressing, if you look at it in more detail you see it being complicated. For instance many states voted for abortion rights, even Florida with 57%. Although it needed 60% to become law in Florida, it means a very red state still valued womens rights. And others did as well.

3.
"I disliked both of my options a lot, but contrasts like these did briefly make me question who the lesser evil even was."
This is a major problem in american politics: the focus on only two parties. This isn't just a thing with majority vote, other majority vote countries like France, the UK or Japan have more than two relevant parties. This is special for the US and it poisons politics. You shouldn't have to decide between two evils, you should decide on uplifting options. That is difficult to offer with just two parties and pretty much impossible with both going more or less crazy (in different ways). Both the Republicans and the Democrats would have like they acted committed political suicide in a country with more than two parties.

4.
"To sum up the core flaws of the Harris candidacy as I see them, the real issue wasn't really her campaign. All in all, she ran a very impressive one, IMO."
Agreed. Harris didn't do a bad campaign, especially given how late she had to start. The problem is you don't win elections on campaigns alone. Campaigns don't exist in a vacuum. The democratic party is more than just her campaign and many of the democrats did more stupid shit. But elections is also more influenced than only party members, people on the press that is seen as dem-leaning or even stupid Tweets pro Dems are seen by people as part of the democratic package. And obviously politics, especially if your party is currently governing and did so for the last four years. You start to win elections much earlier than just the campaign.

5.
One of the articles you linked had the most damning thing to say about democrats:
"
The only places Vice President Kamala Harris made real gains on Trump were with white, educated and wealthy voters."
This right there is crazy! That is the republican base back in the days of Bush. The democrats need to fix this. A problem seems to be, that democrats now for years take the votes of black and latino people and of women for granted. But every voter is one you have to fight for. If you lose interest in them, they will lose interest in you over time. And yes working class. The democrats can't be a party for wealthy well educated people.

6.
Luckily not all in the democratic party are totally dense. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez for instance asked people and posted the answer. This is needed to get a better result next time. People like AOC are the future, the democrats as a whole, the democratic leadership needs to follow their example and actually listen to voters instead of condemning them or blaming external effects.

Overall, don't let the result pull you down too much. It may be bad, but it isn't the end of the world, life goes on. Some shitty things will probably happen, but you will find ways to manage. And the next election will be happening soon. When I was young, George W. Bush was the worst president of all time. Who still remembers him?
Care for your personal life first and politics only second. This is always the way to stay sane, regardless of which time and which country.
And thanks for the long and insightful post.



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Heard ya, Jaicee......My personal favorite life learning game, is the "Life is Strange" series. Very powerful.



IkePoR said:
LurkerJ said:


A genuine attempt at debating after multiple hit and runs. I must be on to something. Is it the “public fetish” thing? 

“Strong leadership” is what you tell yourselves jerking off to being wiped the floor with. 

You sound like a pushover with no principles to stand up for, justifying the excessive bending-over with “but it’s strong leadership so it’s fine11!!!” 

I worked with strong leaders, professionally, and I am learning how to become one for my future role. Maybe if you logged off twitter and got some real world experience you’d be able recognise effective strong leadership instead of fooling yourself like this; either way, I pity you.

Uh, okay?  This is why I don't engage with you because of nothing posts like this where you just kinda sperg out and not answer questions.

Don’t cry the victim now, it’s the type of “strong leadership” that you “admire” after all.

Multiple genuine attempts have been made to engage but all I get is you baiting for more insults. Everyone can see the motive behind your insults-seeking attitude clearly now, I am sorry you can’t help it. As I said, I pity you.

I don’t kink shame, but ultimately, this is a public forum, and you're gross.



IkePoR said:
RolStoppable said:

A punching bag for us here on the forum. Just look one post above where you get smacked down by LurkerJ.

That's some nice self soothing you got going on there.  Practice that technique well, you got 4 years to make it through.

You seem to believe that I am going to suffer because of your kind's stupidity, but I am not American.



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LurkerJ said:
IkePoR said:

Uh, okay?  This is why I don't engage with you because of nothing posts like this where you just kinda sperg out and not answer questions.

Don’t cry the victim now, it’s the type of “strong leadership” that you “admire” after all.

Multiple genuine attempts have been made to engage but all I get is you baiting for more insults. Everyone can see the motive behind your insults-seeking attitude clearly now, I am sorry you can’t help it. As I said, I pity you.

I don’t kink shame, but ultimately, this is a public forum, and you're gross.

So just another sperg session? lol You want some cheese with that whine? Project a little less, even if it is liberal gospel to paint ones flaws onto others.

I understand your side got massacred on election night but there's no need to meltdown.  Trump will even be president for folks like yourself - I hear he's reopening insane asylums!



"You should be banned. Youre clearly flaming the president and even his brother who you know nothing about. Dont be such a partisan hack"

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RolStoppable said:
IkePoR said:

That's some nice self soothing you got going on there.  Practice that technique well, you got 4 years to make it through.

You seem to believe that I am going to suffer because of your kind's stupidity, but I am not American.

Your kind said he is a fascist dictator who will threaten democracy.  Surely you must be terrified of the embers of hell he plans to raise here befalling your kind.



"You should be banned. Youre clearly flaming the president and even his brother who you know nothing about. Dont be such a partisan hack"

IkePoR said:
LurkerJ said:

Don’t cry the victim now, it’s the type of “strong leadership” that you “admire” after all.

Multiple genuine attempts have been made to engage but all I get is you baiting for more insults. Everyone can see the motive behind your insults-seeking attitude clearly now, I am sorry you can’t help it. As I said, I pity you.

I don’t kink shame, but ultimately, this is a public forum, and you're gross.

So just another sperg session? lol You want some cheese with that whine? Project a little less, even if it is liberal gospel to paint ones flaws onto others.

I understand your side got massacred on election night but there's no need to meltdown.  Trump will even be president for folks like yourself - I hear he's reopening insane asylums!

It’s pretty telling that this is the longest exchange we’ve had, this is the kind of posts that get and hold your attention? Lol. It is, indeed, a fetish.

If anyone was unsure, you are leaving no room for doubt with how you’re baiting for more insults. This is too gross, I am done. Piss off, now.

I won’t be surprised if you come back for more though, you clearly can’t help it.



BFR said:

Heard ya, Jaicee......My personal favorite life learning game, is the "Life is Strange" series. Very powerful.

LiS is a cute franchise. It's not what I'd classify as the best-written one out there (defs on the cheesy side, lol), but that hasn't stopped me from buying every installment so far myself or from looking forward to Lost Records. It's a vibe.



Jaicee said:
BFR said:

Heard ya, Jaicee......My personal favorite life learning game, is the "Life is Strange" series. Very powerful.

LiS is a cute franchise. It's not what I'd classify as the best-written one out there (defs on the cheesy side, lol), but that hasn't stopped me from buying every installment so far myself or from looking forward to Lost Records. It's a vibe.

Agreed. Here are my favorites, in order.

1. LiS

2. LiS: Before the Storm

3. LiS: True Colors

4. LiS 2

Edit: I have yet to play DE.

Last edited by BFR - on 17 November 2024

BFR said:
Jaicee said:

LiS is a cute franchise. It's not what I'd classify as the best-written one out there (defs on the cheesy side, lol), but that hasn't stopped me from buying every installment so far myself or from looking forward to Lost Records. It's a vibe.

Agreed. Here are my favorites, in order.

1. LiS

2. LiS: Before the Storm

3. LiS: True Colors

4. LiS 2

Edit: I have yet to play DE.

Double Exposure may be my favorite LiS entry to date actually. It continues the trajectory toward somewhat greater life-likeness established in True Colors, but with more nuanced character development than what one's used to seeing from the franchise and to me at least it helps. It makes the dialogue just a bit more evolved and honest and that's a good thing considering its serious range of subject matter and its soundtrack is like...the absolute best that I've heard in a video game all year to date. Seriously, the soundtrack is a major highlight. Would definitely recommend Double Exposure!