Right...Lmao...Harris spent 80% of her campaign trying to appeal to Republicans, not once did she or her campaign criticise Trump voters, when Biden had that gaffe, Harris immediately came out to denounce it. The Trump Campaign did however attack Haitian-Americans, Puerto Ricans, Jews, Democrats, Press, etc. With all those labels you mentioned.

If anything, maybe Harris messed up by trying to appeal to Republicans too much and didn't focus on shoring up her own base enough, the left wing, because clearly courting Republicans was fucking useless, they didn't go out and vote for her in notable numbers and the ones that did still spent 90% of their time talking shit about her more than they did about Trump. Probably would have helped her more if she went with radical left-wing economics which promise significant change rather than courting Republicans.

Her biggest crime is calling Trump a fascist and yes he is one. If people take issue with that then tell JD Vance (Trump's running mate) off as well for calling Donald Trump "America's Hitler" in the past or the multiple members of Trump's former cabinet calling Trump a fascist. But apparently, it's fine for JD Vance to call Trump Hitler, it's not okay for Democrats to call him a fascist, Lol.

Per your usual, you are wrong, like you have been for a 100+ pages.  I am not defending MAGA, I am looking at ways to start flipping seats in 2026.

Middle America overwhelmingly voted Trump.  Demonizing Trump voters isn't going to work.  It didn't work in 2016 and didn't work in 2024.  I would recommend people adopt a new strategy.  But what do I know?  I was only right for 6 months over 100 pages.  

Oh, I think the Harris campaign was actually fine with messaging. But you know, things don't exist in a vacuum. Media commenters and people online do these things. And that is relevant. And my comment is also more directed at the general vibe: why do people put so much of their identity into things that are outside of their control? This is a general thing, even outside of politics. But it exists, and it is attributed to political stances and that influences election behaviour. Waving it away because Harris did not do it (great!) is turning a blind eye to the reasons things happened this way.

Yeah, I puposefully said it that way, I am not sure any of these ways is really healthy.

Well, Wikipedia currently lists 73 million votes for Trump (probably will be more once all is counted). You will not win them back by demonizing them. And yes, you are not in a presidential campaign. But all of what is said online contributes to an overall picture of the left.

Just look at it from another angle: your views of Trump and MAGA is also influenced by stupid takes you see on the internet of his fans. And people he attacked probably will not vote for him or people aligned to him for the foreseeable future.

This goes both ways. More polarization is not going to help you win in the future.

Again. Did I demonise the whole of Middle-America? No.

I insulted a specific group of MAGA voters but here you are rushing to finger wag at me and cry foul at me calling out that specific group, at me expressing anger at the thought of thousands of people being thrown to the slaughter, because seemingly hurt feelings is worse than human lives to you. You did not address anything else I said other than to get upset about me saying people are stupid for believing in Trump's peace plan and disgusting for wanting to cut off all aid to Ukraine and let Israel slaughter Palestinians, maybe you just don't give a fuck about either.

You somehow believe that me, a VGChartz user, a European, will somehow influence the results of America's elections by expressing said anger, meanwhile it's perfectly okay for you, a VGChartz user, an American, to spend 99% of his time talking shit about Democrats but oh, at least you voted for Harris, that totally makes your tactic the perfect one to gain votes.

Get off your high horse pretending that you know better than every single VGChartz user, this same shitty attitude that you've expressed over the course of multiple threads, get over your ego trip and being upset that people aren't apologising to you and admitting that you were "right" when you did the exact same shit in another thread where you refused to admit you were wrong, over something as fucking useless and harmless like UK driving laws. Stop acting like you're better than everyone else when you do the exact same shit.

At the end of the day, both me and you complaining on VGChartz is not going to have a major impact on the US Election but don't be a hypocrite and pretend like my stance will somehow have a negative impact on America's future elections by criticising people who are endorsing the stance of letting Ukraine and Palestine be slaughtered but somehow your stance of saying how awful the Democrats are 24/7 is going to gain votes? Give me a fucking break.

Also they'll be no Trump voter in 2028 unless you believe that Trump will rip up the constitution and go for a 3rd term.

Omg some of you need to get a fucking grip on reality. The American right is clearly 100% effective at distorting the reality field for some of you and at gaslighting you all. 

You're showing me random fucking videos of random fucking no bodies as an example of how radical the left is? are you fucking serious?

Meanwhile, this guy gets a seat at the fucking table with Trump along with Kanye and it's the spineless American left who's radical? 

Why isn't this clip being shown by this obnoxious Australian bitch as an example of the right losing it? Matt Walsh and Steven Bannon openly embracing project 2025 right after Trump won? 

The examples are too many, I typed many posts but I kept on deleting because what's the fucking point. The right gets away with everything including electing someone that's so far off the spectrum like Trump but the left needs to go back to the centre. Wat. Stop with the stupid conclusions, just because the right won it doesn't make everything they say about the left true. Jesus, I hope the dems are having better discussions than the ones we're having here, there is no time to learn the wrong lessons.

Could you people actually read my post?

Unless you're telling me that every single Trump voter also has the stance of...

1. We should cut off all aid to Ukraine.
2. Let Israel finish off Palestine.
3. Trump can bring peace to Ukraine in a day and/or soon as he comes into office.

1/2 are disgusting stances to take and results in thousands more dead but "oh the feelings"

3 is objectively a stupid thing to believe, I'd put it almost the same level as being a Flat-Earther.

• Can't criticise Trump voters as a whole
• Can't criticise a specific group of Trump voters - We're here right now.

What's next? Can't criticise a single person for anything if he voted Trump? You're both being ridiculous.

I don't recall if it was this thread, the politics thread or the deleted one.  But I went on record that demonizing GOP voters is pushing people to GOP.  Guess what?  I was mocked, laughed at and was told I was wrong...  the GOP just slaughtered the field.  Not just with the presidency (all swing states), but also with the senate, house and governors. 

And what people say here matters, as does any social media platform.  People get their information and the interactions via social media.  The more people rip into America, the more people demonize GOP voters the more they will stand united, thus making them a difficult target to defeat.  You and many others simply cannot connect dots and are not helping yourself.

And I am fine on my high horse, I tried to you.  I keep hoping maybe you will listen, but perhaps not. 

*Ironically, I wasn't wrong about UK driving, you all were, but dogpiled like you all did in this thread.  You are immature and cannot handle being wrong.  Of course, on this topic, there is further irony.  I have a UK driver's license, you don't.  

But alas, keep demonizing Americans and GOP voters.  Everyone can do the same on the other social media platforms.. and when the GOP wins again in 2028, you can all whine/cry....  again.  

edit

I just thought of a good illustration of what I am trying to say, the covid vaccine.  You have a person who is nervous about a emergency approved vaccine (did not complete full CDER approval process)..  when mandates were trying to be pushed..  did that make the nervous person more or less vaccine friendly?

*it pushed them away from the vaccine more