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What will be the launch title for Nintendo's Next Console?

3D Mario 26 53.06%
 
Mario Kart X 13 26.53%
 
Metroid Prime 4 5 10.20%
 
Super Smash Brothers 1 2.04%
 
Pokémon: Let's Go Johto! 1 2.04%
 
New Experimental Game (Tech Demo) 1 2.04%
 
Donkey Kong 3D 0 0%
 
Other (Specify below) 2 4.08%
 
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Soundwave said:

I don't think 3D Mario + Metroid is enough to carry the Switch 2.

Mario Kart is bigger than all of those, Mario Kart is frankly the biggest Nintendo franchise by a mile dwarfing any Mario platformer at this point. It should be priority no.1 to have out for day 1 on Switch 2 if Nintendo truly wants a successful early product cycle for the Switch 2 which is comparable to the Switch 1.

Mario 3D alone ain't gonna do it and Metroid Prime is small potatoes (sorry Metroid fans) in the wide appeal sector.

Mario Kart you will want for NSO subscriptions as well. It just makes sense to have it day 1 and then have it grow with more and more tracks as time goes on and to lock people in to have to continually be subscribed to NSO to get new tracks.

There is going to be a Donkey Kong game of some sort to coincide with theme park launch too, that's definitely going to happen. 

A 3D Mario only ever launched with two Nintendo platforms, and the second time it was a remake.

3D Mario games have been absent from Nintendo launches not because they're not big but because they take some time.

Nintendo might have a new Mario Kart ready by launch but it's hardly necessary and they need to focus on the experience first and making it to launch of Switch 2 second. 

3D Mario and Metroid Prime 4 (even with no other first-party titles) would probably already be better than just about any first-party launch line-up in Nintendo history. Switch had BOTW (a cross-gen game, but a massive one) and 1-2 Switch (a middling game to most). 



Lifetime Sales Predictions 

Switch: 161 million (was 73 million, then 96 million, then 113 million, then 125 million, then 144 million, then 151 million, then 156 million)

PS5: 122 million (was 105 million, then 115 million) Xbox Series X/S: 38 million (was 60 million, then 67 million, then 57 million. then 48 million. then 40 million)

Switch 2: 120 million (was 116 million)

PS4: 120 mil (was 100 then 130 million, then 122 million) Xbox One: 51 mil (was 50 then 55 mil)

3DS: 75.5 mil (was 73, then 77 million)

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I’d love to see Xenoblade Chronicles X dx (XCXDX) or a sequel, and I think there’s a good chance of that at the end of year 1.
Super Mario Kart 9 and in the 6 month window.
The next 3D Mario seems a lock for launch day.

My moonshot game would be Xenogears Remake by Monolithsoft, licensed by Square Enix, published by Nintendo.
Written and Directed by Tetsuya Takahashi
Story: Soraya Saga/Kaori Tanaka
Music Composition: Yasunori Mitsuda
Art Director: Yasuyuke Honne
Character Designs by Tanaka and (optional) Tetsuya Nomura
Level Design and Map: Koh Arai
(Optional) Script: Masato Kato

I think it’s important to get most of the original creative team onboard, luckily, almost all of the creative minds work at Monolithsoft or have great relations with them. Tetsuya Nomura is someone who I think would be interesting to put on the team, and I know he has good relations with Monolithsoft - he was almost a part of Xenogears but was put on FF7 (which Xenogears was at one point).



I describe myself as a little dose of toxic masculinity.

Would rather it was a new Donkey Kong Country, but it's more likely to be Mario Kart X.



CaptainExplosion said:

Would rather it was a new Donkey Kong Country, but it's more likely to be Mario Kart X.

Depending on when Switch 2 launches, Donkey Kong could still come to Switch first. The theme park area is scheduled for Spring 2024 (Q2 then) and what better way to celebrate than have a new DK game within 6 months of the opening.

On the other hand, considering that it's pretty likely that Switch 2 is coming out Q4 2024 or Q1 2025, that would still be recent enough to save DK for the next system. 



Lifetime Sales Predictions 

Switch: 161 million (was 73 million, then 96 million, then 113 million, then 125 million, then 144 million, then 151 million, then 156 million)

PS5: 122 million (was 105 million, then 115 million) Xbox Series X/S: 38 million (was 60 million, then 67 million, then 57 million. then 48 million. then 40 million)

Switch 2: 120 million (was 116 million)

PS4: 120 mil (was 100 then 130 million, then 122 million) Xbox One: 51 mil (was 50 then 55 mil)

3DS: 75.5 mil (was 73, then 77 million)

"Let go your earthly tether, enter the void, empty and become wind." - Guru Laghima

Wman1996 said:
Soundwave said:

I don't think 3D Mario + Metroid is enough to carry the Switch 2.

Mario Kart is bigger than all of those, Mario Kart is frankly the biggest Nintendo franchise by a mile dwarfing any Mario platformer at this point. It should be priority no.1 to have out for day 1 on Switch 2 if Nintendo truly wants a successful early product cycle for the Switch 2 which is comparable to the Switch 1.

Mario 3D alone ain't gonna do it and Metroid Prime is small potatoes (sorry Metroid fans) in the wide appeal sector.

Mario Kart you will want for NSO subscriptions as well. It just makes sense to have it day 1 and then have it grow with more and more tracks as time goes on and to lock people in to have to continually be subscribed to NSO to get new tracks.

There is going to be a Donkey Kong game of some sort to coincide with theme park launch too, that's definitely going to happen. 

A 3D Mario only ever launched with two Nintendo platforms, and the second time it was a remake.

3D Mario games have been absent from Nintendo launches not because they're not big but because they take some time.

Nintendo might have a new Mario Kart ready by launch but it's hardly necessary and they need to focus on the experience first and making it to launch of Switch 2 second. 

3D Mario and Metroid Prime 4 (even with no other first-party titles) would probably already be better than just about any first-party launch line-up in Nintendo history. Switch had BOTW (a cross-gen game, but a massive one) and 1-2 Switch (a middling game to most). 

The Switch had Breath of the Wild AND Mario Kart 8 Deluxe as basically its launch titles, MK8 DX came out only a few weeks after its launch. Mario Kart was absolutely a huge part of the Switch's early success and it's been a big part of its success ever since. 

3D Mario and Metroid is not going to match up to that. And Switch got Splatoon 2 not soon after and then it's own 3D Mario as well all within its first 9 months or so. So Switch only having a 3D Mario compared to Switch 1 having 4 of those big hitters ... that's a pretty far drop off. 

Switch 2 is already going to be at a fair disadvantage over Switch 1 by not having a Breath of the Wild type Zelda launch title, not having Mario Kart there would be a mistake IMO. 

Mario Kart is Nintendo's Grand Theft Auto, it's by far their biggest franchise, even 3D or 2D Mario don't compare sales wise anymore, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe has outsold Mario Odyssey + NSMBU + Mario 3D World on the Switch combined, it will outsell Mario Odyssey + Mario Wonder combined as well most likely. And it will drive NSO revenue more than any other Nintendo game thanks to DLC. Switch is the 3rd straight Nintendo system that Mario Kart has been the no.1 seller on too (3DS, Wii U, Switch), so this isn't some outlier one off, this is a definite trend that's been ongoing now for 10+ years. 

If any big Nintendo franchise is overdue for a new console installment it's Mario Kart. The last new console game in the series will be 10 years ago next year. Even the mobile game released now over 4 years ago. 

I said this many times but Mario Kart for the next Switch should have been in hard development starting in 2021 at *the latest* (planning should have started a year before that at least). That should have been priority 1 at Nintendo once offices opened up again post COVID. They should be nearing 3 years of hard development of this game (2021, 2022, 2023). 

It's not like you even need 60 courses to launch with, 12-16 new courses + 12-16 remixed old tracks would be enough to launch the game with and then you can add DLC as you go. 

Last edited by Soundwave - on 16 December 2023

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Odyssey has proven that 3D Mario sales are nothing to sneeze at when it's such a quality title. It's no Mario Kart, but not even a new Pokemon game's sales can touch Kart today. A brand new 3D Mario game that is demonstrative of the new system's capabilities would be a great launch title, and it surely wouldn't be Nintendo's only game for the fall.

Honestly, I'm not sure Switch 2 necessarily needs Mario Kart on launch day. I can only imagine the level of shortages we'll see for Switch 2's first holiday. Having your alpha title come out when the system is at its most difficult to find could prove to be less effective than launching it several months later when the install base has grown a bit, the system is more readily obtainable and the anticipation has grown even more.



Tober said:
HyrulianScrolls said:

My prediction for how the heavy hitters shake out if it were to launch in early 2025:

25: Kart, Party, Metroid, 3D Mario

26: Gen 5 Remake, Ocarina Remake, Ls Mansion, Animal Crossing (feel very strongly about a full blown OoT remake happening to quench the long wait to new 3D Zelda. Won’t be surprised if it’s FF7 ish in being a massive update rather than just remake)

27: Splatoon, Pokemon Gen X (bold prediction here but I think GF takes a full 5 years to make a true next gen evolution of the franchise that will go absolutely nuts in sales like BotW did for Zelda series (another dev does Gen 5 remakes). I think Nintendo is well aware this is what needs to happen for Pokemon after Gen 9 reception and sales falling off a cliff so fast)

28: New Smash from Sakurau, New 3D Zelda (a decade just like Kart feels like the right timeline between Smash’s. 5 years is the average for Zelda for some time minus TotK due to pandemic)

I like the full remake idea for Ocarina. Because the Original is on NSO already, it needs some real changes and surprises. What about at the finale Link actually looses and needs to retreat. Then we get a time jump and see Old Man Link at a lone cabin getting a visitor. It's navi telling him they found a way for Link to return in time to get a rematch. Then you play a completely new timeline as Old Link to find a way back, essentially making it 3 timelines with child, adult and old.

It’s interesting you bring up extending the ending since this is what I was thinking as well and have seen others also bring up. I think the game lends itself really well to something further happening after that ending, so it’s a good route to explore for a remake 



Regarding Pokemon, it was VERY clear gf had no ability to develop for a console like Switch in such short dev times this gen. Add a far more powerful hardware into the mix when they still don’t even know how to develop for home consoles circa 2008, and it will be a disaster if they don’t take their time with the next game (gen X). I think Nintendo is well aware of this now as well and won’t let them pump out broken garbage for the next Switch either.

S/Vs sales were extremely concerning in how massive it opened and then cliff dived. The reception definitely hurt. A game like that launching on a console with a mere fraction of the install base S/V launched on could be an outright disaster for the franchise. Nintendo’s not gonna let it happen. Why I say 2027 for Gen X and in the meantime we get Gen V remakes along the way by a different dev



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archbrix said:
Soundwave said:

I don't think 3D Mario + Metroid is enough to carry the Switch 2.

Mario Kart is bigger than all of those, Mario Kart is frankly the biggest Nintendo franchise by a mile dwarfing any Mario platformer at this point. It should be priority no.1 to have out for day 1 on Switch 2 if Nintendo truly wants a successful early product cycle for the Switch 2 which is comparable to the Switch 1.

Mario 3D alone ain't gonna do it and Metroid Prime is small potatoes (sorry Metroid fans) in the wide appeal sector.

Mario Kart you will want for NSO subscriptions as well. It just makes sense to have it day 1 and then have it grow with more and more tracks as time goes on and to lock people in to have to continually be subscribed to NSO to get new tracks.

There is going to be a Donkey Kong game of some sort to coincide with theme park launch too, that's definitely going to happen. 

Sure, but remember, the launch hype of a new system with some good titles doesn't need that silver bullet right out of the gate to put up good numbers.  Better for them to save it until the beginning of the next fiscal year or so (around May perhaps, similar to TOTK) to keep the momentum going.

DK, I believe, is still a finished Switch 1 game that would be better suited for that 140m+ user base than it would to show off a new console.  The theme park is set to open in the Spring and I don't think that Switch 2 will be out by then.

Where is the information regarding DK game? Is it the opening of Donkey Kong Country in Universal Studios Japan?
We could be hit with a DKC4 for Switch and a 3D DK for the NG, same year.


Salnax said:

My thoughts

  • At the moment, I'm assuming Nintendo will release the Super Switch or Switch 2 in Q4 2024 or Q1 2025.
  • Nintendo has generally tried to get a 3D Super Mario out within the first year or so for every possible platform since the N64. This doesn't make it a guaranteed launch title, but does make it a cnadidate.
  • Normally I'd say that Mario Kart 9 was a likely launch window title, but the MK8 Booster Pass makes me think that it could be some ways away.
  • Metroid Prime 4 would be a good candidate for a cross-gen release... if I had any confidence that it will ever get released. Alternatively, 2024's Pokemon game might be a cross-gen game, although it is more likely to just be on Switch if B2W2 and USUM are any indicators.
  • We will get at least one early casual game in the vein of Wii Sports, 1-2-Switch, Nintendo Land, Nintendogs, etc. Additionally, an early Mario Party is likely.
  • Mario Maker 3 could be a viable launch window game, based on the projected 5 year gap between releases and the popularity of the first two games.
  • Camelot is roughly due for a new game in 2024, but maybe it can be a Switch 2 game instead?
  • Grezzo has been quiet lately...

-Grezzo's last game was Miitopia in 2021. They are usually involved in Legend of Zelda remakes. So we could be seeing a (very unlikely but I can dream) a Legend of Zelda All Stars featuring Legend of Zelda, Link to the Past, and Oracle of Ages/Seasons.

-Camelot's last game was Mario Golf Rush in 2012, and pump a game every 3 years. I was speculating a Mario Baseball game (Baseball is a bug Japanese and American sport).

-Pokémon won't be porting any games to both consoles, they can barely make things run on the Switch. I think they'll be pushing for the NG. It will either be Let's GO Johto or Gen 5 remake. I hope for Let's GO, that way they can spend more time on gen 5, I can't let them be massacring my boy like gen 4 remakes.

-Mario Party gets pumped out every 2 years. The last one was Mario Party Superstars in 2021. And a lack of Mario Party in 2023, means 2024 is most likely to arrive. Either Switch or NG.

Jumpin said:

I’d love to see Xenoblade Chronicles X dx (XCXDX) or a sequel, and I think there’s a good chance of that at the end of year 1.
Super Mario Kart 9 and in the 6 month window.
The next 3D Mario seems a lock for launch day.

My moonshot game would be Xenogears Remake by Monolithsoft, licensed by Square Enix, published by Nintendo.
Written and Directed by Tetsuya Takahashi
Story: Soraya Saga/Kaori Tanaka
Music Composition: Yasunori Mitsuda
Art Director: Yasuyuke Honne
Character Designs by Tanaka and (optional) Tetsuya Nomura
Level Design and Map: Koh Arai
(Optional) Script: Masato Kato

I think it’s important to get most of the original creative team onboard, luckily, almost all of the creative minds work at Monolithsoft or have great relations with them. Tetsuya Nomura is someone who I think would be interesting to put on the team, and I know he has good relations with Monolithsoft - he was almost a part of Xenogears but was put on FF7 (which Xenogears was at one point).

What is Xenogears? Iv'e never heard of it, but it sounds rather stacked.



Lifetime Sales Predictions 

Switch: 160 million (was 120 million, then 140 million, then 150 million)

PS5: 130 million (was 124 million)

Xbox Series X/S: 54 million (was 60 million, then 57 million)

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