Mummelmann said:
HoloDust said:
I'm really trying to like it, but I feel I've keep fighting with it every step of a way in various ways from the beginning. I've spent last few days quite a bit of time in BG1 and 2, and eventually figured I'd rather play those games again, given how engaging they are for me, than BG3...which honestly made me kinda sad, given that I was expecting a lot from BG3. I have moments in BG3 when I think "this is so good", and then I have moments like wiping all those goblins and wargs in that ruined town with just one level 3 rogue thinking "what kind of crap this is, that shouldn't be possible". Guess I'll be pushing on, hoping the choices are really rewarding, cause everything else feels half-baked, IMO. |
There's nothing with feeling that way, I recently played through BG 1 and 2 again. Both have aged well for fans of the genre, but the UI leaves a lot to be desired for more modern audiences. I played D&D 2nd Edition (or AD&D) back in the day, so I'm familiar with the system there as well. For me, the biggest difference between the old BG games and BG 3 is the dynamic combat, combat in BG 1 and 2 is very static, owing mostly to the rule system it's based on. BG 1 and 2 are incredible classics, and well worth playing to this day, the characters and writing are strong points, more so in the sequel than the first one (the main story of Baldur's Gate is a tad "narrow" in scope compared to the sequel). They also did incredible things with side quests, which were often hopeless fare back in the day, and not the majority of game time that we see today. If you enjoy the original and sequel, I would advice you to play Icewind Dale 1 and 2 as well.
The first 3 levels in BG 3 are quite tough, I failed a lot despite having a lot of experience in the genre and with RPGs in general. Positioning is crucial, ranged attacks from high ground are a must in most fights. There are also some pretty cheesy strategies for harder groups (luring one and one away by pickpocketing and having them chase you, for instance). Overall though, I'm loving almost every minute of my playthrough. My main regret is rolling a Rogue instead of a Sorcerer for my main, but I plan on finishing it with my original build. |
Yeah, played both IWD1 and 2 back in days. They are more of a "kill everything in your path" type of games than BG, but still satisfying experiences.
I find that BG 1 and 2 have much better gameplay flow to them than BG3. Not to mention much, much better writing and characters (from what I've seen so far). I honestly prefer their UI as well - BG3, IMO, has pretty bad UI (inventory being ridiculously bad). Camera is also very obtrusive and constantly gets in the way. Exploration is much quicker in BG1/2. There is way too much loot for DnD game. As for combat - well, combat in 5e is not very dynamic either, but it has its flow. I find that BG3 combat is actually worst than tabletop version due to omission of dodge and ready action. In tabletop you also tend to get into advantage whenever its possible and be tactical, but I find that BG3 combat drags on way too much. I grew up with AD&D, so BG's system was quite familiar for me, yet I actually appreciated it being real time with pause - it was great balance between the rules of AD&D 2e (with optional rules such as weapon speed factors and weapon type vs armor modifiers that can really slow down combat in tabletop) and computer game - you get into encounter, you overcome it with limited resources you have, you move on or risk a rest out in the wilderness.
Not saying that BG3 is bad game, on the contrary, so far I like a lot of its aspects, it's just that I don't find it to be THAT good. You know, even back in days, no matter how much I liked BG 1 and 2, I felt they got their glory not for being just good games (there were other, better games that didn't reach that status and sales, like Ultima VII, Fallout 2 or Arcanum), but because BGs were good games, that are DnD games as well. I find the same thing happening with BG3 as well - it is a good game, more of a DOS2: Forgotten Realms than actual sequel to BG1/2, but with major marketing hype push from Hasbro as owners of D&D brand.