znake said:
No, Nintendo better keep hybrid console |
Nintendo already released non-hybrid Switch consoles.
sc94597 said:
I see no reason to abandon the hybrid form factor for a tiered one. |
They already have?
sc94597 said:
My guess is that Switch 2 will probably use a mobile Ampere-based chip (if Nintendo goes Nvidia.) That'd probably put it between an RTX 3050 mobile and base Tegra Orin when docked, and akin to the RTX 2050 Mobile when portable. |
Tegra Orin -is- Ampere.
Leynos said:
pfft likely more powerful. Steam Deck is just an old laptop crammed in a smaller form. The Orin chips are better. Even if they don't use the rumored custom T239 Orin Chip and use a more stock Orin chip offer more than Steam Deck does in features alone and if they even use a medium-range Orin SoC it's more powerful than Steam Deck. |
The biggest limitation with these machines is actually fillrate and memory bandwidth.
Tegra Orin simply has more bandwidth than the Steamdeck, so it would in theory, handle higher resolutions better.
In saying that, the Steamdeck isn't cutting edge, it's a year and a half old at this point, newer PC gaming handhelds are able to double it's performance without much fuss.
Random_Matt said:
Orin is unlikely in my eyes, unless heavily cut down. $449 incoming I reckon, no thanks. |
There are mainstream ORIN SoC's with 100GB/s of bandwidth which would be a massive upgrade over the Tegra X1 in Switch which would actually be an ideal candidate for the next gen Switch.
zeldaring said:
I doubt they go with nvda again. Nintendo only went with nvda cause Nintendo got a mind blowing deal on the switch chip set cause they were basically useless for nvda . I honestly don't see Nintendo going with anything cutting edge cause they never do. |
I have never seen any evidence to suggest this assertion to be true.
Ignoring the fact it's wccftech.com... So you know. They lack any legitimacy.
Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft liaise with -every- chip manufacturer to find the right price/performance/feature set for their next line of consoles, it's part of the R&D process.
Bofferbrauer2 said:
zeldaring said:
I doubt they go with nvda again. Nintendo only went with nvda cause Nintendo got a mind blowing deal on the switch chip set cause they were basically useless for nvda . I honestly don't see Nintendo going with anything cutting edge cause they never do. |
The thing is, for a mobile gaming SoC, NVidia is by far the easiest option. Other mobile chips don't have GPUs that are directly compatible with the other PC and console counterparts (Though Samsung is getting AMD Radeon graphics in the future) while X86 chips are too power-hungry to get a handheld as light and long-running in handheld mode as the Switch, at least without major modification. For comparison, the Steam Deck and Ayaneo 2 both weight more than double what the Switch OLED does for somewhat worse battery life. |
Fun fact. Re-arrange "Adreno" and it spells "Radeon". - It's anagram of when Qualcomm acquired ATI's Radeon mobile technology.
x86 can also scale down to the same powerlevels as ARM. Intel actually managed it with Atom and Samsung built tablets based on that x86 chip and it ran Android+ARM apps without drama.
Bofferbrauer2 said:
I'd argue that with today's hardware, it could be possible to emulate the CPU with an X86 CPU to provide backwards compatibility. But like I said, that would probably make any Switch successor too heavy for prolonged use. |
This has been done to death via Binary Translation. The technology exists, it's mature.
Is x86 going to happen? Unlikely.
zeldaring said:
Yup Nintendo has nothing to lose. They will still dominate the handheld market and get more sales from those that want a traditional console with a descent controller and SSD. |
The Nintendo Switch has an SSD.
The WiiU had an SSD.
The Wii had an SSD.
I think it goes to say, any future device from Nintendo will use a solid state drive, integrated or otherwise.
IcaroRibeiro said:
The people who wants the Switch TV will just buy the standard hybrid if there is no TV version. The potential buyers for the TV only device will just cannibalize potential sales for the inevitable hybrid version |
There will be an overlap where sales of a Switch-TV will be an additive sale rather than a replacement sale.
I for instance would still retain my portable consoles, but would also jump at the chance to have a cheap $100 Switch TV that will run the *exact* same game library.
I think that is the ideal end-goal for a platform that "can do it all". - All your games, regardless of how you wish to play.