Otter said:
EricHiggin said:
I don't know anybody who prefers their newer LED LCD picture or speakers over my Plasma. My Plasma is 14 years old and still works. It was also quite cheap when I bought it as Plasma costs had been reduced considerably over the years. Like LCD territory cheap. They stopped making Plasma Tv's around 2015 and they don't make most parts for them anymore either. I'm not saying people have no power to stop what some groups are pushing. I'm just saying those groups are doing a very good job of getting the herd to go where they want. That doesn't mean some of them don't stray and are very difficult to round up. The point is like your Nvidia reference. There's a direction groups are all heading and they want everyone to follow, and to the benefit of the few in the group, more and more. I'm not really disagreeing with your points. I'm disagreeing with the intention behind it all and the supposed understanding everyone has about where this eventually leads. |
I don't know anyone who thought the 3DS has better graphics than the Vita yet the 3DS outsold it 5 to 1. Plasmas were simply not as popular as LCDs which is why the industry shifted from them. The industry didn't shift from it ahead of the people, there was direct competition and the general public did not majorly care about plasma colour benefits and instead preferred cheaper/lighter screens and that's where the market moved. Especially as TV manufacturing is complex, whole infrastructure has to be built around the individual technologies which means plasma isn't going to live on as niche. We've got oled now which makes that obsolete though ;) Going back to the core most point - My intention isn't to champion digital or negate the future risk but to understand that even without the "evil plan" to take everything a way from us, people (the masses) would always develop in the direction of a strong digital preference. If we really want to guard against the concerns of the future, that to me is very important and means a significant amount of work needs to actually go into fighting for good digital rights, not just hoping physical never goes away or remain popular. Ironically I actually think Sony announcing this prematurely and dropping disks probably a generation too soon is actually going to be the biggest boost to physical media as people react to the very same fear you're suggesting. |
My plasma is very efficient, very slim, and very light. Not much different than LCD's back then. More recent LED LCDs are lighter and cheaper however, yet not all that much more efficient.
Plasma's were encroaching on LCD territory so those companies wanted something to combat Plasma. LED LCD was the answer to that. They could offer a step up in screen size for the same price as a cheap Plasma (while making larger profits due to it being cheaper tech to produce). That's the big reason why people went with LED LCD. Slightly slimmer and lighter was a minor bonus. So yes, the industry did push people towards LED TV's, and the people went along with it.
Doesn't change the fact that TV's are for watching and hearing content, and Plasma was much better for that overall. They also couldn't sell Plasma for as much anymore because OLED had started to enter the market, so they dropped Plasma because OLED could be sold for huge profits since it was the new best technology by far, as expensive as it was to make. OLED didn't make Plasma obsolete since it was way too expensive, but companies didn't care because they just wanted higher profits.
OLED and LED LCD made higher profits so they were continued. Plasma had its place and could've continued, but the companies just saw that as a bunch more work for less profit than the other TV's, and they figured they could force everyone into another TV type one way or another. While I and others still have our Plasma's, eventually we're going to have to go with LED or OLED or whatever else new hits the market. Either that or we stop watching content on a TV.
Back to the point as you said - People will go digital mostly because it's more convenient, but that doesn't mean it's the better choice and that they aren't screwing themselves over in the long run. Companies want this because it's cheaper to produce, leading to even higher profits, plus it gives them far more control, which can also be used to further increase profits.
Fighting for digital rights simply prolongs the inevitable. The agenda is set and if it simply takes longer to get to the 'destination' then so be it. They don't really care as long as they can eventually move the herd there.
I do agree this move by SNY will push more gamers to physical, for a while anyway. I have a feeling physical isn't completely going away, just discs. Though this would also just be a delay to the inevitable if the herd keeps following the path the shepherds are guiding them down.
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