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G2ThaUNiT said:
PixelPirate said:

Serious though, where is the Hellblade 2 marketing? Release is just 2 weeks out.... I really fear for Ninja Theory.

Greenberg said that marketing was kicking off as of yesterday. But then again, he also said Hi-Fi Rush was a massive success

I hope he means more than Ninja Theory tweeting something about the game daily until release.



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Ryuu96 said:

Dumb as fuck.

Looks like Microsoft wants this game to just die. It already was but they want it to eventually be completely unplayable. 



G2ThaUNiT said:
method114 said:

I wish I could get into PC gaming. The way games run is just amazing. Unfortunately it comes with it's own problems. The amount of time I've wasted troubleshooting issues on PC just isn't worth it. It doesn't happen often but on console it never happens. Xbox controller disconnecting randomly was the final straw for me. After that I shut it all down and sold off everything on Ebay.

PC gaming is great! Most will typically get a pre-built gaming PC to avoid the headaches of building your own. Which is fair. But for me, building a PC is half the fun. I know many that switched from console gaming to PC gaming, but opted to get pre-builts, and they really haven't had any issues. 

They might let their graphics driver get too out of date, but once updated, everything goes back to normal. 

PC gaming can be great when everything works. When it doesn't I lose my mind. My schedule is packed. I don't have all the time in the world to work on issues. So even having to troubleshoot something for 10 mins is a massive annoyance to me.

I work in IT also so building them can be fun but even that I just don't care about much anymore. I've built enough PCs in my life I'm kind of done with it. I remember one day I tried to go back and play Arkham City and the game just kept crashing on me. I took it personally and nothing I tried fixed it. Seemed to be an issue with Nvidia and the new GPUs/drivers. A complete windows reinstall resolve the whole issue and by the time I was done I didn't even want to play it anymore. Worst part is I updated all my drivers and everything again and when I tried it later, the game was getting the same error.

Wont even get into the hackers on Rainbow six siege. Literally having my rank score adjusted up and down every single day because of hackers. I'm not exaggerating when I say every single day. It sucks because R6 is way more fun on PC than consoles but the hacking kills that game on PC.



We need a 2.0 LOL



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Ryuu96 said:

Agreed with Idas.

If Phil leaves this year then it'll be obvious he was made the fall guy though for their transition if that also happens this year, Lol.

I wonder what statement from Phil they're refering to about makign all games from Bethesda exclusive?
Because I seem to recall Call of Duty being promised to remain on other systems rather early (before it became part of the court case), and was followed by a statement (not from Phil) about how they will evaluate which games make sense to be on multiple systems, and I speculated that Elder Scrolls 6 would not be multiplat.

That's different from going full third party, but the extent of their third party plans may have changed along the way.

Ryuu96 said:

He has a point, I don't think the reaction would be anywhere near this bad if Tango wasn't on the list, in a shitty business sense you can justify Arkane by saying Austin released both a poor product and a big flop, alongside that, Arkane still exists in Lyon, it is still a shitty thing made especially shitty after Phil's comment about Austin being able to get a 2nd chance but it's understand from a business perspective.

But Tango, sure HFR may have flopped but it likely cost less than Redfall with a smaller team than Redfall, based in Japan where salaries are lower than Texas and despite it flopping, it was a critical success which won dozens of awards, it was great for Xbox's brand, it was great for Game Pass brand, it was ripe for transmedia potential with a TV Show, it felt like the start of a new franchise and it had only just released on PlayStation so if it flopped, give it a little more marketing + time and it still hadn't released on Switch.

Tango's closure just makes no damn sense.

I was about to say that Tango being on the list is probably the main reason the reactions are so strong this time.

Not much makes sense about that one, aside from HFR not selling well.
Shadow dropped without any promotional push leading up to release, when the future of the studio apparently depended on it.
Did it even matter to them what it would sell on Playstation and Switch 2? I don't know how long in advance you need to plan out the closure of a studio, but it's only been a month and a half since it released on PS5.

The game being so critically acclaimed is especially what makes it so inconcievable to me.

I hope the I.P. somehow lands with the original team. But that's so difficult to arrange when a team is split up and go separate ways.



Hiku said:
Ryuu96 said:

Agreed with Idas.

If Phil leaves this year then it'll be obvious he was made the fall guy though for their transition if that also happens this year, Lol.

I wonder what statement from Phil they're refering to about makign all games from Bethesda exclusive?
Because I seem to recall Call of Duty being promised to remain on other systems rather early (before it became part of the court case), and was followed by a statement (not from Phil) about how they will evaluate which games make sense to be on multiple systems, and I speculated that Elder Scrolls 6 would not be multiplat.

That's different from going full third party, but the extent of their third party plans may have changed along the way.

Ryuu96 said:

He has a point, I don't think the reaction would be anywhere near this bad if Tango wasn't on the list, in a shitty business sense you can justify Arkane by saying Austin released both a poor product and a big flop, alongside that, Arkane still exists in Lyon, it is still a shitty thing made especially shitty after Phil's comment about Austin being able to get a 2nd chance but it's understand from a business perspective.

But Tango, sure HFR may have flopped but it likely cost less than Redfall with a smaller team than Redfall, based in Japan where salaries are lower than Texas and despite it flopping, it was a critical success which won dozens of awards, it was great for Xbox's brand, it was great for Game Pass brand, it was ripe for transmedia potential with a TV Show, it felt like the start of a new franchise and it had only just released on PlayStation so if it flopped, give it a little more marketing + time and it still hadn't released on Switch.

Tango's closure just makes no damn sense.

I was about to say that Tango being on the list is probably the main reason the reactions are so strong this time.

Not much makes sense about that one, aside from HFR not selling well.
Shadow dropped without any promotional push leading up to release, when the future of the studio apparently depended on it.
Did it even matter to them what it would sell on Playstation and Switch 2? I don't know how long in advance you need to plan out the closure of a studio, but it's only been a month and a half since it released on PS5.

The game being so critically acclaimed is especially what makes it so inconcievable to me.

I hope the I.P. somehow lands with the original team. But that's so difficult to arrange when a team is split up and go separate ways.

From the FTC trial, a Microsoft email was discussed where Phil told Matt Booty that all future Bethesda titles will be exclusive and Tim Stuart sounded a little annoyed by the change in strategy of "case-by-case"

You are right about the shadow drop but annoyingly thinking back on that Microsoft was banging on about how that turned out to be a genius move and worked really well for Hi-Fi Rush and it was agreed upon by both Microsoft and Bethesda.

But also good point, they didn't decide to close the studio yesterday so when did they? Did they know it would be closed even before the PS release? It's so fucking stupid, it isn't even on Switch 2 where the game would probably do decent and it would be such a slap in the face if it is still ported to Switch 2 after killing the studio.

Anyway, the IP should go to John since he was the director, it happened once before when Press Play was closed but instead PP employees created multiple studios, Microsoft gave them their IPs back but spread across the studios IIRC.



VersusEvil said:

Honestly … think I might just plug the switch in and become a Nintendo f..🤮.. fanboy ..

Yes, come to the dark side... we will embrace you!

Anyways, no reason to be so serious. While these news are disappointing it isn't good to be so strongly attached to any company or platform or ecosystem. I started playing in the 90s on DOS, and the transition to Windows let me slowly fall off, until Wii and DS pulled me back into gaming. Things change all the time, just change yourself with times. I lived in times when PC gaming was the king, then in times it was declared dead, and now it looks like PC gaming is king again. Change is the only constant.



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Ryuu96 said:

Dumb as fuck.

Hmm. If it had gotten a proper single player mode, I might have taken a look. I remember the original announcement and being excited - until the moment it became clear it is multiplayer and my excitement deflated pretty fast. Fixing the bugs and adding single-player might have been good moves.



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Also all Xbox studios must be developing their games under immense pressure now, it seems nobody has a clue what Xbox's direction is not even the studios themselves so they don't know how Xbox measures success anymore, it basically puts them all on the chopping block with this level of uncertainty...People make their best games when they're in a good working environment not whatever this is.

ABK was such a monkey paw, Xbox will become the biggest publisher in the industry but at the cost of destroying their reputation and throwing away creativity, if it was something like Sega instead, things would probably be different, they'd be a modest sized publisher, a profitable one but not so massive that Microsoft has their eyes laser focused on them, probably could remain under the radar still, honestly feels a bit like, Microsoft finally got their war chest out but be careful what you wish for.

It really does feel like Activision acquired Xbox, they saw those COD numbers and drooled and now they don't care about XGS/Bethesda (aside from Elder Scrolls/Fallout), it's almost like "The Xbox Division" has been pushed in the background and it's now "The Activision Division" and I reckon at this point if Microsoft could get Bobby Kotick back they'd probably hire him in a heartbeat and give Phil the boot.

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 07 May 2024