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SegaHeart said:
Thisar said:

Every ZyroXZ2 topic turns into a shitshow after a while, it's just sad and annoying at this point

He should do an Xbox version next or PC?

Somehow, I’m skeptical that either of those will happen. 



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SegaHeart said:
Thisar said:

Every ZyroXZ2 topic turns into a shitshow after a while, it's just sad and annoying at this point

He should do an Xbox version next or PC?

A Microsoft version, it will annoy both fanbases at the same time



Azzanation said:
Hynad said:

Says the one who complained others downvote his comments, yet does it to specific users without fail.

And a prison snitch? LMAO! I’ve never been to prison, and these comments are public so there’s nothing to snitch about.

There is no point trying to ask for you to have an ounce of introspection regarding how you display your double standards and biases for all to see. You’ve always denied everything, always twisted everything, always been dishonest, always been a hypocrite. I don’t think you’ll ever evolve beyond what you’ve always been. And your next reply will be the same it’s always been.

I’ll leave it at that.

Say as you wish. You like to dish it and yet when people dish it back to you, you report them. Pretty low stuff. 

Say what you like about me, I point out obvious things that people choose to ignore or make excuses on and i am here posting about the topic. You on the other hand, join a conversation, spin it so its about them and try to get them banned. Just like how you started again in this thread with me. Its okay, it doesn't hurt my feelings, you will need to try alot harder.

Now enough of you trying to target me, you have dragged this off topic like usual and i am not going to bite. If you dont like my opinions, counter debate it, otherwise walk. Getting personal is some of the saddest crap i have seen with you, and unfortunately its expected.

Chrkeller said:

When was the last time a console was still sold out two years after launch?

I management an entire innovations R&D team...  hate to tell you, but we raised prices on market products when we underestimated demand.  It happens.  

I will rephase the question, 

In this console industry, when was the last time a console went up in price due to its heavy sales? 

The fact that one of the key things you are choosing to ignore is the fact these consoles are selling out which means the brands revenue is going up which means they are making more money overall. Straight up price hiking while having a top selling item is taking advantage of the consumers. Whether you want to believe that or not, you wont be convincing me otherwise. 

Sony know regardless of the price, it will sellout due to customers or scalpers. It isn't rocket science as a business, its extremely strange and questionable when their direct competitors are staying the same and have to put up with the same world wide issues.

Didn't facebook raised the price of their VR solution? Did you made a thread to complain about it?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Chrkeller said:
Azzanation said:

I will rephase the question, 

In this console industry, when was the last time a console went up in price due to its heavy sales? 

The fact that one of the key things you are choosing to ignore is the fact these consoles are selling out which means the brands revenue is going up which means they are making more money overall. Straight up price hiking while having a top selling item is taking advantage of the consumers. Whether you want to believe that or not, you wont be convincing me otherwise. 

Sony know regardless of the price, it will sellout due to customers or scalpers. It isn't rocket science as a business, its extremely strange and questionable when their direct competitors are staying the same and have to put up with the same world wide issues.

Lol, you do understand how business works, no?  Making as much money as possible is kind of the point.  If consumers will pay it, corporations will charge it.  

I could be wrong, but let us pick on the Switch...  have you ever seen a console in 5.5 years not drop in price?  Is that taking advantage of consumers?  Do you believe Nintendo couldn't financially afford to drop the price of the Switch?  

Edit

Based on a quick internet search the Switch costs $250 to make..... 5 years ago.  I'm guessing that cost has come down significantly over 5 years.  I wouldn't be surprised if Nintendo is making more money off hardware then Sony is.  

You understand that maintaining a product price is different to raising a product price right? They are not the same thing.



DonFerrari said:

Azzanation said:

I will rephase the question, 

In this console industry, when was the last time a console went up in price due to its heavy sales? 

The fact that one of the key things you are choosing to ignore is the fact these consoles are selling out which means the brands revenue is going up which means they are making more money overall. Straight up price hiking while having a top selling item is taking advantage of the consumers. Whether you want to believe that or not, you wont be convincing me otherwise. 

Sony know regardless of the price, it will sellout due to customers or scalpers. It isn't rocket science as a business, its extremely strange and questionable when their direct competitors are staying the same and have to put up with the same world wide issues.

Didn't facebook raised the price of their VR solution? Did you made a thread to complain about it?

Did you see the initial reaction of the price hike? I didn't need to because no one is defending the price hike.

I also didn't make a thread about the PS5 price hike. So again you try to insert yourself into a topic with zero point.



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Azzanation said:
Chrkeller said:

Lol, you do understand how business works, no?  Making as much money as possible is kind of the point.  If consumers will pay it, corporations will charge it.  

I could be wrong, but let us pick on the Switch...  have you ever seen a console in 5.5 years not drop in price?  Is that taking advantage of consumers?  Do you believe Nintendo couldn't financially afford to drop the price of the Switch?  

Edit

Based on a quick internet search the Switch costs $250 to make..... 5 years ago.  I'm guessing that cost has come down significantly over 5 years.  I wouldn't be surprised if Nintendo is making more money off hardware then Sony is.  

You understand that maintaining a product price is different to raising a product price right? They are not the same thing.

I've answered your multiple questions.  Please show the same respect and answer mine.  



zero129 said:
Hynad said:

 Contrary to you, I don’t have a strong bias against one of the big 3, and certainly don’t go out of my way to shit on every topics about MS or Nintendo the way you do with Sony.

You should be careful not to expose yet again your bias and double standards when the others raise their prices or act similarly for whatever else makes you constantly shit on Sony. We all see through you, but you keep staying your usual oblivious self. 

And clearly, you have no idea what facts are.

Now that is golden. I have seen you shit on Ms a number of times, i have never seen you shit on Sony. If thats not bias i dont know what is.

Oh really. Tell me, what did I say to shit on MS, or how did I shit on them?

I clash with members of that fanbase, not MS. 

But since you are, well, you, I will reiterate what I said a few times recently. I think Jim Ryan is damaging the PS brand like no other CEO before him and his reign needs to end sooner than later before things get even worst than they are right now. You need to go back to the blunders during the PS3 era (pricing and PSN security breach) to find a situation that’s remotely comparable, and even those weren’t as bad as how things are now with Jim Ryan at the helm.



zero129 said:

Edit: Do you have me blocked from looking at your profile and old posts?. Was going to have a look at your posts but its kinda hard to do when i cant even view your profile...

You can adjust in the settings who can view your profile. Nobody, friends, registered users or everyone.



zero129 said:
Hynad said:

Oh really. Tell me, what did I say to shit on MS, or how did I shit on them?

I clash with members of that fanbase, not MS. 

But since you are, well, you, I will reiterate what I said a few times recently. I think Jim Ryan is damaging the PS brand like no other CEO before him and his reign needs to end sooner than later before things get even worst than they are right now. You need to go back to the blunders during the PS3 era (pricing and PSN security breach) to find a situation that’s remotely comparable, and even those weren’t as bad as how things are now with Jim Ryan at the helm.

Thats all well and good. But when other users are saying the same thing why are you going reporting them and trying to get them banned like azzanation said.

No need to make things personal also like Azz said and like it seems your trying to do here.Like you said i am me and i will call out hypocrisy when i see it.

Edit: Do you have me blocked from looking at your profile and old posts?. Was going to have a look at your posts but its kinda hard to do when i cant even view your profile...

Azzanation says I do that. That’s not what I do. I suspect he is projecting and describing his own behaviour, just like with the downvoting thing.



Chrkeller said:
Azzanation said:

You understand that maintaining a product price is different to raising a product price right? They are not the same thing.

I've answered your multiple questions.  Please show the same respect and answer mine.  

What exactly is your question? That no console was in the Switches situation? 

I anwesred it by saying, lowering the price is different to raising the price. Just because its successful and on the market for years doesnt mean developers have to lower the price. Just like the PS4 era

You didnt answer my question when i asked which console raised its price for being super successful?