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SegaHeart said:
Chrkeller said:

100% disagree.  If nobody buys a ps5 at $550 Sony will lower the price immediately.  If people buy the ps5 at $550 Sony will keep said price.  Consumers dictate pricing.  

I think people will buy PS5 at 550$ they are stronger as a brand right now they can get away with it, Unlike Microsoft or Nintendo.

Absolutely the ps5 will sell at $550, no question.  



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Hynad said:
Azzanation said:

And you actually believe that? meanwhile they continue to sellout of hardware daily and profit billions from their previous buisness model? Sad if true. 

Bias has nothing to do with price hikes. Take the goggles off for once and see what is actually happening around you. They want $50 more because they know they can, not because they need to.

Chrkeller said:

You’re the one getting banned from Sony topics for your constant negative spins and positions towards PlayStation. If someone is known for having goggles, it’s you. 😂

I’ll leave it at that.

Its the only way you try to win a debate, is getting people banned for pointing out facts Lol. I am okay with it. Just wait when it actually happens and ill make sure ill bring up your name and the others, expecting an apology. 

Also i hope you keep that same energy when other brands raise prices on you, and you agree with their corperate explanations.

Chrkeller said:
Azzanation said:

Customers dictate the discounted price, that part is true, but not price hikes. Thats pure Corporate greed.

100% disagree.  If nobody buys a ps5 at $550 Sony will lower the price immediately.  If people buy the ps5 at $550 Sony will keep said price.  Consumers dictate pricing.  

When was the last time a console sold so well that they raised the price?



Azzanation said:
Hynad said:

You’re the one getting banned from Sony topics for your constant negative spins and positions towards PlayStation. If someone is known for having goggles, it’s you. 😂

I’ll leave it at that.

Its the only way you try to win a debate, is getting people banned for pointing out facts Lol. I am okay with it. Just wait when it actually happens and ill make sure ill bring up your name and the others, expecting an apology. 

Also i hope you keep that same energy when other brands raise prices on you, and you agree with their corperate explanations.

Chrkeller said:

100% disagree.  If nobody buys a ps5 at $550 Sony will lower the price immediately.  If people buy the ps5 at $550 Sony will keep said price.  Consumers dictate pricing.  

When was the last time a console sold so well that they raised the price?

Contrary to you, I don’t have a strong bias against one of the big 3, and certainly don’t go out of my way to shit on every topics about MS or Nintendo the way you do with Sony.

You should be careful not to expose yet again your bias and double standards when the others raise their prices or act similarly to whatever makes you constantly shit on Sony. We all see through you, but you keep staying your usual oblivious self. 

And clearly, you have no idea what facts are.

Last edited by Hynad - on 23 September 2022

Hynad said:
Azzanation said:

Its the only way you try to win a debate, is getting people banned for pointing out facts Lol. I am okay with it. Just wait when it actually happens and ill make sure ill bring up your name and the others, expecting an apology. 

Also i hope you keep that same energy when other brands raise prices on you, and you agree with their corperate explanations.

Contrary to you, I don’t have a strong bias against one of the big 3, and certainly don’t go out of my way to shit on every topics about MS or Nintendo the way you do with Sony.

You should be careful not to expose yet again your bias and double standards when the others raise their prices or act similarly for whatever else makes you constantly shit on Sony. We all see through you, but you keep staying your usual oblivious self. 

And clearly, you have no idea what facts are.

Not my fault there hasnt been any negative topics on Xbox and Nintendo lately. Sony just seem to be hitting it out of the park with negatively. I can only comment on whats reported.

I know your game, you try to expose others which has been blatantly obvious and you are here trying to do it again. You offer no counter arguments but personal attacks. Its always the same people. Doesnt hurt me. Reminds me on what prison snitches do and trust me, thats not the image you want to be given off. 

I call out negatively in articles and it seems to offend you. Its just video games, don't need to take it so serious. 

I am sure you are reporting me again lol because you have zero to say to add to the topic on hand. See how you are trying to make this about me because i am calling out price raising. Strange isnt is.

Ill remember this post of you claiming i know nothing about facts.

Last edited by Azzanation - on 21 September 2022

Azzanation said:
Hynad said:

Contrary to you, I don’t have a strong bias against one of the big 3, and certainly don’t go out of my way to shit on every topics about MS or Nintendo the way you do with Sony.

You should be careful not to expose yet again your bias and double standards when the others raise their prices or act similarly for whatever else makes you constantly shit on Sony. We all see through you, but you keep staying your usual oblivious self. 

And clearly, you have no idea what facts are.

Not my fault there hasnt been any negative topics on Xbox and Nintendo lately. Sony just seem to be hitting it out of the park with negatively. I can only comment on whats reported.

I know your game, you try to expose others which has been blatantly obvious and you are here trying to do it again. You offer no counter arguments but personal attacks. Its always the same people. Doesnt hurt me. Reminds me on what prison snitches do and trust me, thats not the image you want to be given off. 

I call out negatively in articles and it seems to offend you. Its just video games, don't need to take it so serious. 

I am sure you are reporting me again lol because you have zero to say to add to the topic on hand. See how you are trying to make this about me because i am calling out price raising. Strange isnt is.

Ill remember this post of you claiming i know nothing about facts.

Says the one who complained others downvote his comments, yet does it to specific users without fail.

And a prison snitch? LMAO! I’ve never been to prison, and these comments are public so there’s nothing to snitch about.

There is no point trying to ask for you to have an ounce of introspection regarding how you display your double standards and biases for all to see. You’ve always denied everything, always twisted everything, always been dishonest, always been a hypocrite. I don’t think you’ll ever evolve beyond what you’ve always been. And your next reply will be the same it’s always been.

I’ll leave it at that.



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Azzanation said:
Hynad said:

You’re the one getting banned from Sony topics for your constant negative spins and positions towards PlayStation. If someone is known for having goggles, it’s you. 😂

I’ll leave it at that.

Its the only way you try to win a debate, is getting people banned for pointing out facts Lol. I am okay with it. Just wait when it actually happens and ill make sure ill bring up your name and the others, expecting an apology. 

Also i hope you keep that same energy when other brands raise prices on you, and you agree with their corperate explanations.

Chrkeller said:

100% disagree.  If nobody buys a ps5 at $550 Sony will lower the price immediately.  If people buy the ps5 at $550 Sony will keep said price.  Consumers dictate pricing.  

When was the last time a console sold so well that they raised the price?

When was the last time a console was still sold out two years after launch?

Unprecedented supply issues with unprecedented stock issues...  resulted in an unprecedented price increase.  Simply economics.  

Last edited by Chrkeller - on 21 September 2022

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Hynad said:
Azzanation said:

Not my fault there hasnt been any negative topics on Xbox and Nintendo lately. Sony just seem to be hitting it out of the park with negatively. I can only comment on whats reported.

I know your game, you try to expose others which has been blatantly obvious and you are here trying to do it again. You offer no counter arguments but personal attacks. Its always the same people. Doesnt hurt me. Reminds me on what prison snitches do and trust me, thats not the image you want to be given off. 

I call out negatively in articles and it seems to offend you. Its just video games, don't need to take it so serious. 

I am sure you are reporting me again lol because you have zero to say to add to the topic on hand. See how you are trying to make this about me because i am calling out price raising. Strange isnt is.

Ill remember this post of you claiming i know nothing about facts.

Says the one who complained others downvote his comments, yet does it to specific users without fail.

And a prison snitch? LMAO! I’ve never been to prison, and these comments are public so there’s nothing to snitch about.

There is no point trying to ask for you to have an ounce of introspection regarding how you display your double standards and biases for all to see. You’ve always denied everything, always twisted everything, always been dishonest, always been a hypocrite. I don’t think you’ll ever evolve beyond what you’ve always been. And your next reply will be the same it’s always been.

I’ll leave it at that.

Say as you wish. You like to dish it and yet when people dish it back to you, you report them. Pretty low stuff. 

Say what you like about me, I point out obvious things that people choose to ignore or make excuses on and i am here posting about the topic. You on the other hand, join a conversation, spin it so its about them and try to get them banned. Just like how you started again in this thread with me. Its okay, it doesn't hurt my feelings, you will need to try alot harder.

Now enough of you trying to target me, you have dragged this off topic like usual and i am not going to bite. If you dont like my opinions, counter debate it, otherwise walk. Getting personal is some of the saddest crap i have seen with you, and unfortunately its expected.

Chrkeller said:
Azzanation said:

Its the only way you try to win a debate, is getting people banned for pointing out facts Lol. I am okay with it. Just wait when it actually happens and ill make sure ill bring up your name and the others, expecting an apology. 

Also i hope you keep that same energy when other brands raise prices on you, and you agree with their corperate explanations.

Chrkeller said:

100% disagree.  If nobody buys a ps5 at $550 Sony will lower the price immediately.  If people buy the ps5 at $550 Sony will keep said price.  Consumers dictate pricing.  

When was the last time a console sold so well that they raised the price?

When was the last time a console was still sold out two years after launch?

I management an entire innovations R&D team...  hate to tell you, but we raised prices on market products when we underestimated demand.  It happens.  

I will rephase the question, 

In this console industry, when was the last time a console went up in price due to its heavy sales? 

The fact that one of the key things you are choosing to ignore is the fact these consoles are selling out which means the brands revenue is going up which means they are making more money overall. Straight up price hiking while having a top selling item is taking advantage of the consumers. Whether you want to believe that or not, you wont be convincing me otherwise. 

Sony know regardless of the price, it will sellout due to customers or scalpers. It isn't rocket science as a business, its extremely strange and questionable when their direct competitors are staying the same and have to put up with the same world wide issues.



It's a bit of schadenfreude now it's happening to the rest of the world. But in Canada this is all nothing new. PS4 started at CAD 400, went up a year later. PS4 games started at CAD 60, ended at CAD 80. Exchange rates...
https://www.destructoid.com/playstation-4-price-increased-in-canada/

Last edited by SvennoJ - on 21 September 2022

Azzanation said:
Hynad said:

Says the one who complained others downvote his comments, yet does it to specific users without fail.

And a prison snitch? LMAO! I’ve never been to prison, and these comments are public so there’s nothing to snitch about.

There is no point trying to ask for you to have an ounce of introspection regarding how you display your double standards and biases for all to see. You’ve always denied everything, always twisted everything, always been dishonest, always been a hypocrite. I don’t think you’ll ever evolve beyond what you’ve always been. And your next reply will be the same it’s always been.

I’ll leave it at that.

Say as you wish. You like to dish it and yet when people dish it back to you, you report them. Pretty low stuff. 

Say what you like about me, I point out obvious things that people choose to ignore or make excuses on and i am here posting about the topic. You on the other hand, join a conversation, spin it so its about them and try to get them banned. Just like how you started again in this thread with me. Its okay, it doesn't hurt my feelings, you will need to try alot harder.

Now enough of you trying to target me, you have dragged this off topic like usual and i am not going to bite. If you dont like my opinions, counter debate it, otherwise walk. Getting personal is some of the saddest crap i have seen with you, and unfortunately its expected.

Chrkeller said:

When was the last time a console was still sold out two years after launch?

I management an entire innovations R&D team...  hate to tell you, but we raised prices on market products when we underestimated demand.  It happens.  

I will rephase the question, 

In this console industry, when was the last time a console went up in price due to its heavy sales? 

The fact that one of the key things you are choosing to ignore is the fact these consoles are selling out which means the brands revenue is going up which means they are making more money overall. Straight up price hiking while having a top selling item is taking advantage of the consumers. Whether you want to believe that or not, you wont be convincing me otherwise. 

Sony know regardless of the price, it will sellout due to customers or scalpers. It isn't rocket science as a business, its extremely strange and questionable when their direct competitors are staying the same and have to put up with the same world wide issues.

Lol, you do understand how business works, no?  Making as much money as possible is kind of the point.  If consumers will pay it, corporations will charge it.  

I could be wrong, but let us pick on the Switch...  have you ever seen a console in 5.5 years not drop in price?  Is that taking advantage of consumers?  Do you believe Nintendo couldn't financially afford to drop the price of the Switch?  

Edit

Based on a quick internet search the Switch costs $250 to make..... 5 years ago.  I'm guessing that cost has come down significantly over 5 years.  I wouldn't be surprised if Nintendo is making more money off hardware then Sony is.  



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