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Has Nintendo been "boring" lately?

Yes, definitely. 20 28.99%
 
Yeah, maybe a little. 14 20.29%
 
I dunno. 4 5.80%
 
Naw, probably not. 10 14.49%
 
No, definitely not. 21 30.43%
 
Total:69

I believe it's lacking a big "jump" in videogames in general. In 1996, Super Mario 64 defined well the '3D'. Nowadays you see amazing 4K games but I don't feel the same urge for them. A Switch 2 (4K tv mode/ hologram dock mode) would make any difference? Hololens still nothing and I tought it would be a monster...



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I think gaming in general has gotten stale for a while now (at least 10 years). I think Nintendo is the only major company that has significantly resisted this staleness, but they are not totally immune.

If you are talking about the past year, nah. It really just depends on what games you like.



mZuzek said:
Hiku said:

Nier: Automata is a Jrpg though.

That's a big stretch.

Yeah from the gameplay i've seen, it looks more like an action game similar to Metal Gear Rising. Maybe it has RPG elements? But it certainly doesn't look like a full-blown JRPG. At least not from what I can tell.



   

I believe we are in the necessary calm before the storm of a next gen Nintendo platform. Every manufacturer goes through this as they pour resources (both time and money) into significant projects that will warrant early adoption of a successor. Nintendo is actually in great shape with at least two major titles (BOTW 2 and MP4) still on the docket at a time when we would likely be seeing lesser IPs’ outings.

So yes, there does seem to be a lull, but I don’t think it means bad things for the company for the future. Nintendo is sitting on a goldmine that will still produce at least 20-30 million in sales whether they release flagship titles or not. At this point the only thing uncertain is what their follow will be, which we know could sell as little as 13 million units if they’re not careful.

I also think a September Direct could make much of this discussion moot if Nintendo announces some very exciting titles to be released in the next six months. 



Kakadu18 said:
Ultravolt said:

I mean, I did say I played Kirby earlier this year, and really enjoyed it. I agree, it's a great evolution for the series and a step in the right direction. Pokemon doesn't interest me unfortunately. Didn't mean to start anything with the last paragraph. I simply meant those franchises don't garner as much interest as the bigger titles like Mario and Zelda. Even Splatoon is bigger. Hell, i'm a Metroid fan and would still consider Metroid a niche series. It simply doesn't gain the traction that other bigger franchises do. I'd say Kirby is beginning to crawl out of that space, and i'm sure Xenoblade will follow. For now, though, yeah I kinda consider that a bit niche at the moment.

And honestly, I forgot Switch Sports was even a thing :/

Almost nothing garners as much interest as Mario and BotW. If you want to take Zelda as a whole, Kirby aTFL has outsold almost all Zelda games already, Mario Strikers will do so too and Switch Sports will sell significantly more than Splatoon. If that is what niche means to you then anything that sells below 10mil copies is niche. Your choice of words was highly questionable.

No company can only release 20-30mil+ sellers. From no company everything will be of interest to you. And not everything that isn't literally the biggest thing is niche, aka barely relevant if at all.

A bit sensitive today, are we?



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"Nintendo is always about Mario, Zelda and Pokémon"
"Well here other IPs"
"I didn't say I want other stuff"



This sort of thing is always going to be a personal thing really. I wouldn't call them going stale exactly, although you could levy that towards Pokemon more than anything else as there's a third Pokemon game in the span of just 12 months releasing soon.

I feel it's because most people are too afraid to try a different game outside of their comfort zone, outside of their usual franchises, or isn't putting the effort in; lets face it, when it comes to Nintendo, the only franchises people tend to talk about the most often is Mario, Zelda and Pokemon, nothing or not much else outside of those. There's so much variety of different types of games these days from Nintendo, it's crazy how ignored some are; remember when poeple said there's no games on the Switch? Now there's a lot and suddenly people are self-limiting themselves and claiming they're not interested in anything, while still sticking to the usual stuff.

I'm trying anything and everything out, as long as they're solid, having not played previous titles before, like Xenoblade, which by that token, there's too many games to keep up with; only finished Fire Emblem Warriors: Three Hopes literally the night before Xenoblade 3 came out, which I'm trying piling more time on each day before Splatoon 3 comes out.

So really, staleness is very subjective and dependent on one's personal tastes; if you didn't like those, that's fine, because at least you tried it instead of writing it off. Although that said, I'm holding off on Pokemon Scarlet and Violet to see how that pans out before I take the plunge; still burnt out from it, we only had Legends: Arceus earlier this year and focusing on Bayonetta 3.



maybe just a you thing I have bought more switch games this year than any other and there's still games I want coming and games i haven't got that I plan to get



Hiku said:
mZuzek said:

That's a big stretch.

Ultravolt said:

Yeah from the gameplay i've seen, it looks more like an action game similar to Metal Gear Rising. Maybe it has RPG elements? But it certainly doesn't look like a full-blown JRPG. At least not from what I can tell.

It's categorized as an action rpg by the ones who made it.
On the game cover.

In the promotional material.

Is it the "J" part that's contested? In that case I guess our definitions of Jrpg may be different.
Though looking up the term on Wikipedia, it lists action-rpgs as examples of notable Jrpgs.



Either way, Ultravolt if you haven't played a japanese action rpg before, then maybe this is something you can get into.

Never been a fan of the trend of adding “J” to “RPG” during the PS2 eras. The J seems superfluous, just because RPG devs outside of Japan started getting bigger.

I mean, we don’t designate JFighter, JPlatformer, JAction, or anything like that.

Just my unsolicited 2 cents :)



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RolStoppable said:

Reads like a curl-6 thread with all kinds of arbitrary definitions just because there haven't been news about any of the "right" games.

Past me from 2020 or 2018 maybe, but I think 2022 is amazing for games, I'm practically drowning in great content, to the point where I don't have enough time to play them all and I think this year might just be Switch's best.

I don't feel that Nintendo is stale at all, if anything games like Kirby and the Forgotten Land and Xenoblade 3 feel very fresh, and I haven't been this happy with a gaming system possibly since Wii's 2010.

Last edited by curl-6 - on 22 August 2022