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Norion on 22 April 2022
curl-6 said:
Norion said:

The reason I can't see that happening is pretty strong competition from Xbox this time. I could perhaps see its peak year potentially falling into the 20-22m range due to pent up demand but would be quite surprised if it had a year in the 25-28m range. The latter would indicate it selling better than the PS4 which I see as very unlikely at this point.

Xbox is doing better than last gen, but right now their performance is inflated by having SKU they can actually make enough stock of, the Series S, which is the only 9th gen console widely available. Once supply improves PS5 will be beating Xbox easily.

I do agree that the PS5 will go back to outselling Xbox once supply improves. The ratio should remain closer than it was last gen but there are people overreacting to the past several weeks. I'll be sticking with a prediction of the Xbox Series doing around 70m and the PS5 around 100m for now.



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kirby007 on 22 April 2022
kazuyamishima said:
PaulPortland said:

I want to confirm something... Is the OLED having stock issues? Cause I want to get one, and, damn, I don't find any one... It is only me and my environment? Or is it actually more global?

Depends on where you are.

Australia has plenty of stock, Amazon US has it in stock since early February and Best Buy has it in stock atm, some people report there are no supply issues in Japan.

Don't know about Europe or the other markets.

famitsu numbers clearly show shortages on the OLED



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curl-6 on 22 April 2022
Norion said:
curl-6 said:

Xbox is doing better than last gen, but right now their performance is inflated by having SKU they can actually make enough stock of, the Series S, which is the only 9th gen console widely available. Once supply improves PS5 will be beating Xbox easily.

I do agree that the PS5 will go back to outselling Xbox once supply improves. The ratio should remain closer than it was last gen but there are people overreacting to the past several weeks. I'll be sticking with a prediction of the Xbox Series doing around 70m and the PS5 around 100m for now.

Personally I find it hard to see PS5 doing only 100m with how insane demand and FOMO is for it, but I guess at this point we just can't know. A lot will depend on the chip situation and how long this generation lasts.



Sogreblute on 22 April 2022
curl-6 said:
Norion said:

I do agree that the PS5 will go back to outselling Xbox once supply improves. The ratio should remain closer than it was last gen but there are people overreacting to the past several weeks. I'll be sticking with a prediction of the Xbox Series doing around 70m and the PS5 around 100m for now.

Personally I find it hard to see PS5 doing only 100m with how insane demand and FOMO is for it, but I guess at this point we just can't know. A lot will depend on the chip situation and how long this generation lasts.

The PS5 isn't 1/5th of the way to 100 million. There's always that chance it has great early success, but has bad long term success. I do think 90-100 million is the minimum people would expect. Whatever the number I highly doubt it reaches PS4 numbers since the PS4 had the benefit of Nintendo and Microsoft screwing up in the 8th generation. 



curl-6 on 22 April 2022
Sogreblute said:
curl-6 said:

Personally I find it hard to see PS5 doing only 100m with how insane demand and FOMO is for it, but I guess at this point we just can't know. A lot will depend on the chip situation and how long this generation lasts.

The PS5 isn't 1/5th of the way to 100 million. There's always that chance it has great early success, but has bad long term success. I do think 90-100 million is the minimum people would expect. Whatever the number I highly doubt it reaches PS4 numbers since the PS4 had the benefit of Nintendo and Microsoft screwing up in the 8th generation. 

If anything it seems to me it would be the opposite; it's early sale are being strangled by shortages while demand is through the roof, so as supply increases its sales should be much better than they are now.



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Norion on 23 April 2022
curl-6 said:
Norion said:

I do agree that the PS5 will go back to outselling Xbox once supply improves. The ratio should remain closer than it was last gen but there are people overreacting to the past several weeks. I'll be sticking with a prediction of the Xbox Series doing around 70m and the PS5 around 100m for now.

Personally I find it hard to see PS5 doing only 100m with how insane demand and FOMO is for it, but I guess at this point we just can't know. A lot will depend on the chip situation and how long this generation lasts.

It's true that there is still some uncertainty that is inflated by the chip situation. Though you should keep in mind that around 100m would still be a really good result and put it right with the PS1 and Wii both big successes. Even if it has a modest decline it could still become the 6th best selling console of all time which is not a small feat. 



aTokenYeti on 23 April 2022

One theory I have heard that sounds somewhat plausible is that PlayStation and Xbox could see greater than expected lifetime sales because some anticipate this generation lasting much longer than previous generations. Even before touching on supply chain issues, the cost of silicon has been going way up over the last 5-10 years as node shrinks have become more and more expensive to implement. The next console generation will likely be on 3nm and 2nm, which is right at the limit of what is possible with silicon with current understandings of computing. Those chips will be cost prohibitive for some time and it’s possible the manufacturers just decide to wait and extend this generation for as long as possible. 9th gen going 10 years before a new console is introduced is not outlandish to me



The_Liquid_Laser on 23 April 2022
curl-6 said:
Sogreblute said:

The PS5 isn't 1/5th of the way to 100 million. There's always that chance it has great early success, but has bad long term success. I do think 90-100 million is the minimum people would expect. Whatever the number I highly doubt it reaches PS4 numbers since the PS4 had the benefit of Nintendo and Microsoft screwing up in the 8th generation. 

If anything it seems to me it would be the opposite; it's early sale are being strangled by shortages while demand is through the roof, so as supply increases its sales should be much better than they are now.

A more likely scenario is the apparent demand is inflated due to scalping.  Whenever there is a shortage, scalpers buy up a product in short supply and make the shortage even worse.

It turns out that 2020 created the perfect environment for people to get into scalping.  People had to work from home (if at all) while everyone wanted to play video games and they had to buy their hardware and software online.  A scalper couldn't ask for a better scenario than that.  And even now that people are returning to work, there are a lot more scalpers out there (worldwide), because they have found scalping to be more profitable than their old job.  Of course, once the chip shortage goes away, then these scalpers are going to be stuck holding onto a whole lot of excess inventory, and PS5 will seem like it is a whole lot less in demand than was previously thought.



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DroidKnight on 26 April 2022

Just now noticed the numbers have been fixed.  Thanks!



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IcaroRibeiro on 26 April 2022
aTokenYeti said:

One theory I have heard that sounds somewhat plausible is that PlayStation and Xbox could see greater than expected lifetime sales because some anticipate this generation lasting much longer than previous generations. Even before touching on supply chain issues, the cost of silicon has been going way up over the last 5-10 years as node shrinks have become more and more expensive to implement. The next console generation will likely be on 3nm and 2nm, which is right at the limit of what is possible with silicon with current understandings of computing. Those chips will be cost prohibitive for some time and it’s possible the manufacturers just decide to wait and extend this generation for as long as possible. 9th gen going 10 years before a new console is introduced is not outlandish to me

Honestly, this generations nonsense should have ended years ago. It will be 2024 and we will still getting cross gen games because the absolutely majority of games don't need a PS5 tor un. There is no reason to refresh hardware every 6 years anymore. Hardware is sell at lost, the profit comes from software, why not keep releasing revisions and let gamers decided when to buy upgraded hardware to enjoy games with better specs?