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DarthMetalliCube said:

Ahh yes, and there it is! I was waiting for it! "But Bad Orange Man!" It's literally the entire Dem platform over the last decade. It's all they have left to run on. Even though the guy hasn't been in charge for 3 and a half years now, somehow everything is still his fault!

Look, I don't align with MAGA either (though we share a bit of Populist overlap). Frankly they can be close minded and bigoted when it comes to some of their more right wing views and many do have some weird cultist behavior when it comes to their worship of the man (though much of this is done tongue-in-cheek). Still, they're FAR more sane than the Dems of the last decade have been. And their platform makes more practical sense than the 'Dubya warmongering Neocon agenda as well, which I never stopped hating after 20 years.

In a perfect world, Ron Paul would be running things with Tulsi Gabbard as VP, but we're far from that now, aren't we :P

I do remember that you called yourself a centrist a few years back.



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DarthMetalliCube said:

Ahh yes, and there it is! I was waiting for it! "But Bad Orange Man!" It's literally the entire Dem platform over the last decade. It's all they have left to run on. Even though the guy hasn't been in charge for 3 and a half years now, somehow everything is still his fault!

Look, I don't align with MAGA either (though we share a bit of Populist overlap). Frankly they can be close minded and bigoted when it comes to some of their more right wing views and many do have some weird cultist behavior when it comes to their worship of the man (though much of this is done tongue-in-cheek). Still, they're FAR more sane than the Dems of the last decade have been. And their platform makes more practical sense than the 'Dubya warmongering Neocon agenda as well, which I never stopped hating after 20 years.

In a perfect world, Ron Paul would be running things with Tulsi Gabbard as VP, but we're far from that now, aren't we :P

Ahh there it is, a "former left winger" throwing in some defence of MAGA, Lol. At least it had a little criticism so well done.

All MAGA are close minded bigots and their cult behaviour is definitely not mostly done tongue-in-cheek, they genuinely worship this man and won't let anyone else come close to being the next messiah of the Republican Party. Meanwhile, Democrats barely like Joe Biden, Lmao. So if you want to talk cult-like behaviour it can only really be applied to MAGA.

The negative consequences of Trump's presidency still affect America whether he was in charge or not, his Supreme Court and the MAGA politicians in House are impeding all progress, folk like Marjorie Taylor Greene are genuinely insane and she is currently threatening to kick out Mike Johnson as House Speaker for the horrific crime of working with Democrats to actually pass bills. MTG would rather a government shutdown than Republicans working with Democrats, that's how far the MAGA base is trying to pull the Republican Party to the right.

Democrat platform is absolutely not only about MAGA but it links into a lot of things MAGA is trying to destroy, such as climate policy, aiding your allies, protecting women's rights and the rights of LGBTQ+ people, pushing for better worker conditions, better healthcare, etc. Republicans even got a right wing border bill tossed in their direction by the Democrats which Dems didn't like but MAGA prevented it from moving forward because Trump told them to not give Democrats a win due to the election.

The MAGA platform is screaming about "WOKE!" and "DEMS BAD" and blaming immigrants for all their troubles, hence why they refused to allow the border bill to go forward because without it they'd have nothing to campaign on aside from taking away women's rights which funnily enough is backfiring on them, imagine that.

Trump is as much of a war-hawk as any Democrat and don't mistake his love of Putin and Russia's fascism for being anti-war. He would support Israel's crusade against Palestinians as much as Biden, if not more, especially as he claims to be the most pro-Israel president of all time. I'll post a comment I made elsewhere about Trump too which was conveniently ignored by the person who made a similar claim to you. 

Trump didn't start any new wars but he did escalate a few of the ones he inherited, he increased troop levels, In 2019, air strikes from the US and its allies in Afghanistan killed 700 civilians, more than in any other year since the beginning of the war in 2001 and 2002. The US dropped more bombs on Afghanistan in 2019 than any other year since the Pentagon began keeping a tally in 2006.

He vetoed a measure to force the end to U.S. Involvement in Yemen War. He vetoed bills intended to block arms sales to Saudi Arabia, he destroyed all progress we were making on Iran with the nuclear deal. He assassinated an Iranian General which could have quickly spiralled out of control. Trump was never anti-war and just as hawkish as other Presidents. Obama who pulled America out of Iraq. Biden pulled America out of Afghanistan.

Trump abandoned USA's allies in the Kurds but abandoning an ally to die is not "anti-war" it's called sticking your head in the sand and pretending a war isn't happening. Most recently he said he would not defend a NATO ally if Russia attacked them, quote "I would encourage them to do whatever the hell they want" that's totally anti-war right?

See how I focused in on MAGA? While you generalise the entire Democrat base? I strongly disagree with Republicans as a whole but MAGA is another level and the Republican Party is infected by them and the sooner they cut out the rot, the better, or they can instead continue screaming "WOKE DEMS BAD" because there's some extreme left wingers but the thing is, often these extreme left-wingers aren't even voting for the Democrat Party because they dislike them just as much and there's no actually far-left in the Democrat Party itself but there are far-right in the Republican Party.

All I have to say about Tulsi Gabbard is LMFAO. Didn't know she still had fans

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 04 May 2024

RolStoppable said:
DarthMetalliCube said:

Ahh yes, and there it is! I was waiting for it! "But Bad Orange Man!" It's literally the entire Dem platform over the last decade. It's all they have left to run on. Even though the guy hasn't been in charge for 3 and a half years now, somehow everything is still his fault!

Look, I don't align with MAGA either (though we share a bit of Populist overlap). Frankly they can be close minded and bigoted when it comes to some of their more right wing views and many do have some weird cultist behavior when it comes to their worship of the man (though much of this is done tongue-in-cheek). Still, they're FAR more sane than the Dems of the last decade have been. And their platform makes more practical sense than the 'Dubya warmongering Neocon agenda as well, which I never stopped hating after 20 years.

In a perfect world, Ron Paul would be running things with Tulsi Gabbard as VP, but we're far from that now, aren't we :P

I do remember that you called yourself a centrist a few years back.

This reminds me of the centrist comment I made in another thread, Lol.

Pemalite is what I would consider a genuine centrist but there are many centrist who only pretend to be centrist, either because they believe it makes them more "enlightened" or because they're too ashamed to admit they share the same views as certain right-wingers, conveniently these centrists I'm talking about spend 98% of their time talking about how awful Democrats/Left are and how they "used to be a Dem" but apparently the Dem Party became too extreme for them, while also conveniently sharing almost all the same values and views as right wingers.

And we have the biggest example of this in this thread with Elon Musk.

Fucking hilarious that the Democrat Party is considered extremist left wing by anyone, the furthest left members they have is "The Squad" and aside from AOC they're largely completely ignored by the Democrat Party meanwhile the MAGA consistently cripple the Republican Party, MAGA is the damn reason the last Republican House Speaker was booted out and once again MAGA is trying to kick out the current Republican House Speaker who will only be safe thanks to the Democrats, Lol.

America can't get a border bill because of MAGA, they couldn't pass their foreign aid package for months because of MAGA. Even AOC isn't what I would consider far-left and she showed unlike the others that she's a shrewd politician (in a good way) who understands the need to work with the centrist in the Democrat Party to actually achieve anything which has led to a perception (incorrect I would say) of her moving further to the centre.

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 04 May 2024

Woow.. Yours and my definition on what the "EXTREME" platform is clearly varies quite a bit. Personally I find the Neolib/Neocon agenda far more extreme when it comes to global warfare and the well-being of the American people. So on that note, we have nothing more to discuss on that matter.

I don't give a crap how popular Tulsi is. I'll remain a huge fan of hers even if I'm the only fan remaining on earth. Chick is legit. I like that she's ALSO a former Democrat like myself (and Elon, funny enough!). Went a little too far outside the plantation so the cult smeared her (like all cults do when someone deviates even a tiny bit from their ideology). Instead of cowering and falling in line like Bernie and AOC, she said screw them, I'm leaving and doing my own thing. Liberation, baby. A rare Punk Rock politician and inspiration 🤘

Last edited by DarthMetalliCube - on 05 May 2024

 

"We hold these truths to be self-evident - all men and women created by the, go-you know.. you know the thing!" - Joe Biden

Lol, Anyway. The Nazi is Back.

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 07 May 2024

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God...What is the best alternative to Twitter nowadays? I've stuck with it for so long but I'm getting more and more uncomfortable even having an account there but the other alternatives dropped the ball so hard in features, timing, ease of use, etc. I haven't really kept up with them and how they are today, I only use Twitter to follow gaming news so if I can get it elsewhere...

Edit - Blue Checkmark Strikes Again

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Amplifying Laurence Fox, a massive racist in the UK. Although, Fox and Musk share one thing in common, the same bitter divorcee energy.

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 07 May 2024

DarthMetalliCube said:

Woow.. Yours and my definition on what the "EXTREME" platform is clearly varies quite a bit. Personally I find the Neolib/Neocon agenda far more extreme when it comes to global warfare and the well-being of the American people. So on that note, we have nothing more to discuss on that matter.

I don't give a crap how popular Tulsi is. I'll remain a huge fan of hers even if I'm the only fan remaining on earth. Chick is legit. I like that she's ALSO a former Democrat like myself (and Elon, funny enough!). Went a little too far outside the plantation so the cult smeared her (like all cults do when someone deviates even a tiny bit from their ideology). Instead of cowering and falling in line like Bernie and AOC, she said screw them, I'm leaving and doing my own thing. Liberation, baby. A rare Punk Rock politician and inspiration 🤘

The girl has got that gift of gab.

Tulsi is stunning and brave. Her strength and independence added to that makes her intoxicating.

Plus since we live in meme world, her Rogue like hair due to her 'going rogue' is just too perfect.



Absolutely ignorant little twat once again talking about another country he knows nothing about to spread his bigoted opinions.

The Troubles was horrific and no sane person in England or Northern Ireland wants that to return, so many innocents were killed from this awful conflict and this idiot is also comparing immigrants coming over to Ireland with the awful shit the British Empire did to Ireland? He seems to want the IRA (a terrorist group) to go around bombing immigration centres, they think it's just a game and are actually egging on a terrorist group.

r/NortherIreland is ripping into him: The Absolute State of This : r/northernireland

The IRA helped carry out a major bomb attack against the South African apartheid government as well.

Also, I don't think Musk would like this...

"Again he should examine his political motives bearing in mind that the Army are intent on creating a Socialist Republic."

CAIN: Events: Text of Irish Republican Army (IRA) 'Green Book' (Book I and II)

All that being said, I'm pretty sure the IRA would sooner bomb Musk's car than an immigrant centre.

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 08 May 2024

I can't believe it but I'm now calling it X. But we all still use "tweet" which now makes no sense.



Mabey if Elon get 52 billion . He can demand that he X will onely allow people to utilzie X on his plantform. So it will just be X.



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