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Is free speech suppressed on the internet's main public squares

Yes 56 53.33%
 
No 45 42.86%
 
Undecided 4 3.81%
 
Total:105
Ryuu96 said:

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Ah yes. The constant "*cat* in bio" replies now thanks to Elon's new system.

My favorite is bots (who can now hide their checkmark, btw) talking about Mortal Kombat 1.

This is also better than hearing from Will Smith about Men in Black 4.

Last edited by Hiku - on 28 April 2024

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Twitter becoming a *slightly* less-censored platform (more in line with the standards circa 2012-2015). OMG everyone run for the hills! 



 

"We hold these truths to be self-evident - all men and women created by the, go-you know.. you know the thing!" - Joe Biden

DarthMetalliCube said:

Twitter becoming a *slightly* less-censored platform (more in line with the standards circa 2012-2015). OMG everyone run for the hills! 

"Slightly" less, Lol.

Musk believes in "free speech" as long as it doesn't break the law, which has resulted in Neo-Nazis being unbanned like Nick Fuentes, Twitter is full nowadays with people being openly pro-Nazi and we haven't even got into the bot situation being out of control and porn accounts spamming every single tweet.

But Musk is also a hypocrite.

Twitter’s Elon Musk Defends Decision To Limit Tweets in Turkey During Tight Presidential Election

Elon Musk’s Twitter Widens Its Censorship of Modi’s Critics in India

Whenever a left leaning government asks him to censor someone he throws a fit, cries about freedom of speech and all that, when a right wing government asks him to censor something he does it in an instant.

At this rate they'll be more moderation enforcement on 4Chan than Twitter.

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 03 May 2024

Ryuu96 said:
DarthMetalliCube said:

Twitter becoming a *slightly* less-censored platform (more in line with the standards circa 2012-2015). OMG everyone run for the hills! 

"Slightly" less, Lol.

Musk believes in "free speech" as long as it doesn't break the law, which has resulted in Neo-Nazis being unbanned like Nick Fuentes, Twitter is full nowadays with people being openly pro-Nazi and we haven't even got into the bot situation being out of control and porn accounts spamming every single tweet.

But Musk is also a hypocrite.

Twitter’s Elon Musk Defends Decision To Limit Tweets in Turkey During Tight Presidential Election

Elon Musk’s Twitter Widens Its Censorship of Modi’s Critics in India

Whenever a left leaning government asks him to censor someone he throws a fit, cries about freedom of speech and all that, when a right wing government asks him to censor something he does it in an instant.

At this rate they'll be more moderation enforcement on 4Chan than Twitter.

Boo. Hoo.

The man spent billions on the platform. He gets to do what he wants. Any Authoritarian country that doesn't like it is more than welcome to ban the platform. Here in the US we still value freedom of speech.

Edit: IN hindsight this was childish of me especially as a writer for the site. I'm just passionate about this sort of thing. 

Last edited by DarthMetalliCube - on 04 May 2024

 

"We hold these truths to be self-evident - all men and women created by the, go-you know.. you know the thing!" - Joe Biden

Just a reminder that this is also Musk.

Accusing someone of being a paedophile openly on Twitter because he hurt his feelings.

I know you Musk defenders would be losing your shit if you were on the receiving end of a pedo accusation, if a Mod here openly accused one of you of being a pedo based on nothing, this is the level of "free speech" that is being defended here, an utter garbage free-for-all.

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 03 May 2024

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DarthMetalliCube said:
Ryuu96 said:

"Slightly" less, Lol.

Musk believes in "free speech" as long as it doesn't break the law, which has resulted in Neo-Nazis being unbanned like Nick Fuentes, Twitter is full nowadays with people being openly pro-Nazi and we haven't even got into the bot situation being out of control and porn accounts spamming every single tweet.

But Musk is also a hypocrite.

Twitter’s Elon Musk Defends Decision To Limit Tweets in Turkey During Tight Presidential Election

Elon Musk’s Twitter Widens Its Censorship of Modi’s Critics in India

Whenever a left leaning government asks him to censor someone he throws a fit, cries about freedom of speech and all that, when a right wing government asks him to censor something he does it in an instant.

At this rate they'll be more moderation enforcement on 4Chan than Twitter.

Boo. Hoo.

The man spent billions on the platform. He gets to do what he wants. Any Authoritarian country that doesn't like it is more than welcome to ban the platform. Here in the US we still value freedom of speech.

True, if he wants to pay that much and run the platform into the ground that's his thing, but that will be because he made it a haven for far-right dingbats, not because he decreased censorship. In fact if you talk about actual censorship, the kind that comes from governments, then Twitter has only gotten worse. 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/katherinehamilton/2023/04/27/twitter-has-complied-with-almost-every-government-request-for-censorship-since-musk-took-over-report-finds/?sh=64408d5824ea

But why care about censorship when what you really mean is it isn't as moderated as it once was. 



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DarthMetalliCube said:
Ryuu96 said:

"Slightly" less, Lol.

Musk believes in "free speech" as long as it doesn't break the law, which has resulted in Neo-Nazis being unbanned like Nick Fuentes, Twitter is full nowadays with people being openly pro-Nazi and we haven't even got into the bot situation being out of control and porn accounts spamming every single tweet.

But Musk is also a hypocrite.

Twitter’s Elon Musk Defends Decision To Limit Tweets in Turkey During Tight Presidential Election

Elon Musk’s Twitter Widens Its Censorship of Modi’s Critics in India

Whenever a left leaning government asks him to censor someone he throws a fit, cries about freedom of speech and all that, when a right wing government asks him to censor something he does it in an instant.

At this rate they'll be more moderation enforcement on 4Chan than Twitter.

Boo. Hoo.

The man spent billions on the platform. He gets to do what he wants. Any Authoritarian country that doesn't like it is more than welcome to ban the platform. Here in the US we still value freedom of speech.

You in another thread "As a writer and basically a rep here" Responds to me with "Boo. Hoo." and barely a rebuttal, Lul.

But sure, he wasted billions on the platform which is losing money even more than it already was before he took over so good for him, I'm free to criticise Musk and his Twitter as well. I suppose you will conveniently ignore him censoring on behalf of far-right governments? Okay. Anyway, we won't need to ban Twitter, he will run it into the ground eventually.

I know how much "freedom of speech" the USA has.

Nick Fuentes Says 'Perfidious Jews' Should Be Executed

Nick Fuentes: 'We Will Make Jews Die in the Holy War'

Lovely "freedom of speech" to be an open Nazi...Congrats or something?

I have my freedom of speech too and I exercise it to criticise Musk, I also know that freedom of speech isn't freedom from consequence, it is meant to largely protect from government consequence but not public consequences, public opinion, etc. If I was being openly Nazi in VGChartz, I would rightfully be banned and kicked from the Mod team.



Torillian said:
DarthMetalliCube said:

Boo. Hoo.

The man spent billions on the platform. He gets to do what he wants. Any Authoritarian country that doesn't like it is more than welcome to ban the platform. Here in the US we still value freedom of speech.

True, if he wants to pay that much and run the platform into the ground that's his thing, but that will be because he made it a haven for far-right dingbats, not because he decreased censorship. In fact if you talk about actual censorship, the kind that comes from governments, then Twitter has only gotten worse. 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/katherinehamilton/2023/04/27/twitter-has-complied-with-almost-every-government-request-for-censorship-since-musk-took-over-report-finds/?sh=64408d5824ea

But why care about censorship when what you really mean is it isn't as moderated as it once was. 

If these dingbats are so crazy, what are you worried about? Let the free market of ideas sort it all out. The hateful people and loons will be mocked, ignored, and get hatred right back at them.

In a free and civilized society - NOTHING should censored on social media short of directly breaking the law, doxxing, physical threats to others, etc..

There is crazy shit on Twitter no doubt, but I pay it no mind, as it will never gain traction. 

I'm confused. Is there MORE censorship or less moderation on there? I feel like these are opposing ideas..



 

"We hold these truths to be self-evident - all men and women created by the, go-you know.. you know the thing!" - Joe Biden

DarthMetalliCube said:
Torillian said:

True, if he wants to pay that much and run the platform into the ground that's his thing, but that will be because he made it a haven for far-right dingbats, not because he decreased censorship. In fact if you talk about actual censorship, the kind that comes from governments, then Twitter has only gotten worse. 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/katherinehamilton/2023/04/27/twitter-has-complied-with-almost-every-government-request-for-censorship-since-musk-took-over-report-finds/?sh=64408d5824ea

But why care about censorship when what you really mean is it isn't as moderated as it once was. 

If these dingbats are so crazy, what are you worried about? Let the free market of ideas sort it all out. The hateful people and loons will be mocked, ignored, and get hatred right back at them.

In a free and civilized society - NOTHING should censored on social media short of directly breaking the law, doxxing, physical threats to others, etc..

There is crazy shit on Twitter no doubt, but I pay it no mind, as it will never gain traction. 

I'm confused. Is there MORE censorship or less moderation on there? I feel like these are opposing ideas..

I'm not worried about it and I'm not on twitter so quit answering making those assumption and talk to me like an adult. 

To be fair, I'm talking to you like you're an idiot because you responded to a pretty reasonable post with "boo hoo" so now I'm biased. 

Censorship from governments is up, moderation is possibly down though I can't find any verification of that. 



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Ryuu96 said:
DarthMetalliCube said:

Boo. Hoo.

The man spent billions on the platform. He gets to do what he wants. Any Authoritarian country that doesn't like it is more than welcome to ban the platform. Here in the US we still value freedom of speech.

You in another thread "As a writer and basically a rep here" Responds to me with "Boo. Hoo." and barely a rebuttal, Lul.

But sure, he wasted billions on the platform which is losing money even more than it already was before he took over so good for him, I'm free to criticise Musk and his Twitter as well. I suppose you will conveniently ignore him censoring on behalf of far-right governments? Okay. Anyway, we won't need to ban Twitter, he will run it into the ground eventually.

I know how much "freedom of speech" the USA has.

Nick Fuentes Says 'Perfidious Jews' Should Be Executed

Nick Fuentes: 'We Will Make Jews Die in the Holy War'

Lovely "freedom of speech" to be an open Nazi...Congrats or something?

I have my freedom of speech too and I exercise it to criticise Musk, I also know that freedom of speech isn't freedom from consequence, it is meant to largely protect from government consequence but not public consequences, public opinion, etc. If I was being openly Nazi in VGChartz, I would rightfully be banned and kicked from the Mod team.

Yes, I stand 100% by that response and I see nothing controversial about it as you seem to be implying. If the higher ups see differently. Well, then.. It's been real. ✌️

Whoever this Fuentes guy is, if he's making direct racist and physical threats like it sounds like he is then yes absolutely he should be banned. As I said in other posts, any speech on social media in a free society should be allowed SHORT OF threats of violence, doxxing, etc. Was that unclear? 



 

"We hold these truths to be self-evident - all men and women created by the, go-you know.. you know the thing!" - Joe Biden