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Bless anti-war resisters in Russia and Belarus! Hope their efforts grow and overwhelm the powers that be!



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Ukraine has been played pretty well by both russia and the US. Even zelensky seems fishy at times.

Last edited by KratosLives - on 13 March 2022

Ryuu96 said:
SanAndreasX said:

I guessed that from all the Russian writing on it. 

Heh, Lol.

Yeah, I found the site too, Russian site, whining about Ukrainian Neo-Nazis and parroting the conspiracy theory that America has biolabs in Ukraine to use against Russia.

So yeah, garbage source.

Every country has a minority neo-nazi population. 

If people are so worried about them then surely in 2022 there are at least 10 better ways to deal with the problem then invade a country.



 

 

Cobretti2 said:
Ryuu96 said:

Heh, Lol.

Yeah, I found the site too, Russian site, whining about Ukrainian Neo-Nazis and parroting the conspiracy theory that America has biolabs in Ukraine to use against Russia.

So yeah, garbage source.

Every country has a minority neo-nazi population. 

If people are so worried about them then surely in 2022 there are at least 10 better ways to deal with the problem then invade a country.

Putin doesn't even believe that, he just knows he has a better chance at manipulating his own population by accusing the Ukrainians of being Nazis. Putin just wants Russia to be restored to a great power like USSR and wants to be known like Catherine the Great, but his actions make him look more like Ivan the Terrible.



Dulfite said:
Cobretti2 said:

Every country has a minority neo-nazi population. 

If people are so worried about them then surely in 2022 there are at least 10 better ways to deal with the problem then invade a country.

Putin doesn't even believe that, he just knows he has a better chance at manipulating his own population by accusing the Ukrainians of being Nazis. Putin just wants Russia to be restored to a great power like USSR and wants to be known like Catherine the Great, but his actions make him look more like Ivan the Terrible.

Agree hence why my comment. Pretty weak excuse to go to war. Can't believe people believe it.



 

 

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Ahh I see, now they just start to abduct every mayor and replace them. Start to tell everyone in these cities that protesting is extremism and that everyone has to give his weapon away. They will go from house to house and control everyone.

Something which mostly works in Russia and Belarus surely works in Ukraine as well I guess.

That's the so called freedom Putin is talking about. You are free to kiss his feet

Last edited by crissindahouse - on 13 March 2022

Cobretti2 said:
Dulfite said:

Putin doesn't even believe that, he just knows he has a better chance at manipulating his own population by accusing the Ukrainians of being Nazis. Putin just wants Russia to be restored to a great power like USSR and wants to be known like Catherine the Great, but his actions make him look more like Ivan the Terrible.

Agree hence why my comment. Pretty weak excuse to go to war. Can't believe people believe it.

Countries like Russia, North Korea, Iran, and now China have had their populations brainwashed for decades. Brainwashed people do things we can't understand. The Russian mom who refused to believe what her own daughter was describing in Ukraine, that she witnessed with her own eyes, is a sample that I'm sure could be applied to many Russians. If you believe the state over your own adult kids, that's a level of brainwashing we can't even fathom in free-thinking nations.



Ryuu96 said:

That mayor who has been illegally installed in the position as a Russian puppet needs to be charged with treason by the Ukrainian authorities as soon as they are able to liberate the area. Same goes for any other political collaborators.

Also the irony of her trying to pass it of as a "committee of the people's chosen ones" given the local populace are going to have zero say in the matter.



Ryuu96 said:

Ok, Syrians I can understand the logic. Serbians, not so much as they haven't fought a war in 20 years. Nagorno-Karabakh (also known as Artsakh) is very strange. I’m assuming they mean the ethnic Armenians and not the Russians stationed there as peace-keepers. They fought a war 18 months ago and got creamed. Not great experience and seems they are ineffective. One of the big takeaways was they used poor and out-dated tactics, similar to Russia now. Are they just being thrown there as cannon-fodder so Putin doesn't have to use his own soldiers?

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