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Despite what pirates think, Nintendo exclusively owns their software. If Nintendo wants to delete their software and have it vanish from existence, it is their right. Pirates aren't entitled to play something they don't own.

Pirates are funny.  I wish they would just admit their actions are illegal and they don't care.  Honesty goes a long way for me.

Last edited by Chrkeller - on 17 August 2021

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I think there are two different arguments going on here:
1 Nintendo is bad at preserving its games (at least currently)
2 Nintendo shutting down pirates is bad
I guuueeesss they aren’t mutually exclusive, because 1 makes 2 seem rougher, but we could argue 1 all by itself and I think more people would be in agreement.
Considering this guy was profiting off the games, I suppose it’s still true that the gaming industry has yet to win a legal battle against emulators?

With the exception of GameCube games I have most of all the legacy games I want on the Wii U VC. Even most of the great GameCube games are available including sunshine, twilight, wind waker and pikmin.

Add in their mini consoles and it is clear legacy Nintendo games are available. The problem is pirates don't want to pay for the games.... which should shock nobody.

Pirates ultimately use "availability" and "persevering" as an excuse.  Pirates want to play nintendo games for free on hardware of their choosing, which is illegal (full stop).

Last edited by Chrkeller - on 17 August 2021

Understandable that they fight against sites even selling premium accounts to make money with Nintendo's games.

But Nintendo should just have an own site selling all their games to us for a little price. I really like to play some old Nintendo games on my Smartphone attached to my Xbox controller and wouldn't mind to pay a fair price for their games.

Wman1996 said:

From what I can gather, they're not as adamant about shutting down ROM sites of their games. Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong.

Hundreds of PS3 games are available on PS Now, though they are unfortunately streaming only. 

Dozens of emulated PS2 titles are available on PS4 for purchase, and some are even on PS Now.

PS3 and Vita stores remain open at the moment. PS3 has PS1 and PS2 classics, Vita has PS1 Classics and PSP titles.

Switch has a lackluster assortment of titles linked to their online service. Why only NES and SNES? Where's Game Boy? N64?

3DS and Wii U have tons of classic titles on their still open eShops, but most of them are overpriced.

Sony has work to do, but they seem to be handling things better than Nintendo. What makes it even worse for Nintendo is the sheer embarrassment of riches they are sitting on compared to Microsoft and Sony. 

Adding hundreds more legacy titles from about 6 more unused legacy platforms would help Nintendo so much.

I think your argument tries to paint Sony in a much better light than they have any right to be in this regard. The main arguments are about availability and ownership for this (that is, not needing to access the internet and pay a subscription).

Sonys best legacy content offerings are on legacy platforms (similar to Nintendo). But even many of those content offerings are disappearing. Have you seen the PS1 classics offering on Vita recently? It seems every other day they are removing more and more games from the platform. Nintendo keeps as much of their content as they can on VC (sometimes some TurboGrafx titles go away), but Nintendo offers way more legacy platforms than Sony overall. The 3DS and Wii U combined offer NES, SNES, N64, Wii, GB, GBA, NDS, Game Gear, and TurboGrafx games. You can argue the price, but I'd argue the cost/value is too subjective on legacy content. Some people would pay more for SMB 3 than the vast majority of PSP offerings, despite it being 15 years older.

PSNow is essentially equivalent to NSO for this conversation. Both only offer legacy content via a paid subscription. 

PS4 and their PS2 games amounts to 50 games where over 40 of them are third party titles like SNK fighting compilation games, GTA, and red faction. Sonys own games pretty much amount to only dark cloud, ape escape 2, Parappa the Rapper (which was remastered anyway), Rogue Galaxy and Jak 1-3. It's abysmal, really. 

The only way Sony  is better than Nintendo in any of this is that they don't actively pursue ROM sites like Nintendo does, but this is likely more related to Sonys legacy IP having less value overall and the fact that any time Sony has tried to fight against emulation they've lost. It simply isn't worth the legal fees for little gain. And, you said it, Nintendo's catalog could offer far more riches, so they fight harder.

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Shutting down a rom site is meaningless. You can download those games in a hundred other sites. So I guess they are indeed "Out of touch" after all.

I think they are wasting their time going after roms sites, it is their games and they can do what they want with them. While I do have a raspberry pi filled with some 20,000 games, I don't really need to go back and play Wizards and Warriors for the 20th time. I do wish Nintendo would go back to having more older games like the the Wii had, hell I wish Sony had many of the games the PS3 had like Tales of Symphonia, Chrono Trigger/Cross, Vagrant Story, Suikoden 1/2 etc on the ps4/5.  Xbox is certainly the best in the business as far as preserving their past games on modern consoles.

I mean does it really matter? One rom site get's shut down but a hundred more will pop up anyway.

Jpcc86 said:

Shutting down a rom site is meaningless. You can download those games in a hundred other sites. So I guess they are indeed "Out of touch" after all.

They only shut down sites that make profit of their games, those are the only ones they can legally pursue anyway afaik.

Are people out of stuff to play? I dont get it