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victor83fernandes said:
konnichiwa said:

BC was always a thing with Xbox, the handfull xbox games that you could buy digitally were available to play on your 360 with your account and the bc 360 program was in the works while the 360 was doing great.  The Wii was praised for its VC so criticising the Switch for not having it is fair. I really don't understand how people can call 'the ability to play games you bought before on your new console' a weakness. It should be mandatory by now.

360 was not doing great by then, ps3 was catching up real fast even tough they released the ps3 1 year after the 360. Backwards compatibility was also very slow, just a few games every few months.

The wii was also not doing great by the time of VC, the wii sold a lot to casuals in the first couple years. But the wii was never praised at all for the VC, maybe if you read the gaming news yeah, but most people who had a wii were casuals who didn't even know about it.

But that's besides my point anyway. My point is, Nintendo doesn't need to bother, money will be coming in with little to no effort. There's more money to be made with remasters than VC.

At this point you are just trying to make stuff up to protect Nintendo don't you think it is sad?

1 We are on a sales site and the PS3 did not surpass the Xbox 360 till the end of its generation and is sure not my definition of catching up fast.

2 By august 2006 (10 months after xbox 360 release) the number of bc games was almost 300, or almost 30 games a month => https://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/101609/Xbox_360_BC_List_Gets_Major_Additions.php 
Your few games a month is the same 'few' that haters of the Switch like to use to talk about only a 'few' yearly nintendo games released.

3 BC was huge on forums, the PS3 announcement and the ability to play PS1/PS2 games on it was applauded by fans, the VC announcement also announced in 2006 was even more applauded. Fans loved the idea to play games from consoles they never owned or games they lost on the Wii etc. It became even a huge discussion between VC and PS3's BC...Which one is better.

4) Your last comment is obvious but also a sad one, it's exactly like the troll comments 'Nintendo doesn't need to make adopted controllers for disabled people because it would hardly make any money'






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CaptainExplosion said:

Please, someone just close this thread. It's become bogged down by corporate Nintendo defenders who think I'm OK WITH SOME PROFITING FROM SWITCH ROMS ON A ROM SITE WHEN I'M NOT.

Thread should stay open. It's not often anymore that we get such a popular thread.



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Chrkeller said:

The problem is the foundation of your argument is nintendo is "out of touch."

The switch has been killing it in sales and in reviews. There is no basis supporting they are out of touch. Clearly people are currently happy with Nintendo.

Ultimately most simply don't believe you know how to operate a billion dollar company better than Nintendo does.  

Another way to look at it is your claim that a VC channel would help their success.  Well the Wii U had an amazing VC channel...  and the system tanked.  The switch has a meh VC offering and the system is a lights out success.  Clearly most people don't care about VC, so you are making the mistake of believing the masses have the same preferences.

I'm saying the VC would make it better, not make it more of a success.



CaptainExplosion said:
Chrkeller said:

The problem is the foundation of your argument is nintendo is "out of touch."

The switch has been killing it in sales and in reviews. There is no basis supporting they are out of touch. Clearly people are currently happy with Nintendo.

Ultimately most simply don't believe you know how to operate a billion dollar company better than Nintendo does.  

Another way to look at it is your claim that a VC channel would help their success.  Well the Wii U had an amazing VC channel...  and the system tanked.  The switch has a meh VC offering and the system is a lights out success.  Clearly most people don't care about VC, so you are making the mistake of believing the masses have the same preferences.

I'm saying the VC would make it better, not make it more of a success.

Sure, you think it will make it better, that isn't in question.  The question is do you represent the masses or are your feelings niche?  Based on Nintendo's direction it appears the answer is "niche."

Also, while paywalls are awful IMHO, keeping games tied to a subscription is going to generate a lot more revenue than selling them once.  Same reason Sony dropped free online with the ps4.  Subscriptions are the future.



Chrkeller said:
CaptainExplosion said:

I'm saying the VC would make it better, not make it more of a success.

Sure, you think it will make it better, that isn't in question.  The question is do you represent the masses or are your feelings niche?  Based on Nintendo's direction it appears the answer is "niche."

Also, while paywalls are awful IMHO, keeping games tied to a subscription is going to generate a lot more revenue than selling them once.  Same reason Sony dropped free online with the ps4.  Subscriptions are the future.

Which is also awful because subscription services can be shut down at any time. How is Nintendo going to rectify the problem with Switch's successor? Are they just going to say "Sucks to be you, try this new thing."?



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CaptainExplosion said:
Chrkeller said:

Sure, you think it will make it better, that isn't in question.  The question is do you represent the masses or are your feelings niche?  Based on Nintendo's direction it appears the answer is "niche."

Also, while paywalls are awful IMHO, keeping games tied to a subscription is going to generate a lot more revenue than selling them once.  Same reason Sony dropped free online with the ps4.  Subscriptions are the future.

Which is also awful because subscription services can be shut down at any time. How is Nintendo going to rectify the problem with Switch's successor? Are they just going to say "Sucks to be you, try this new thing."?

Yes, as would all companies.  Ps4 brought pay for online, ps5 still has it.  Companies aren't here to make you happy, they exist to make money.  



Chrkeller said:
CaptainExplosion said:

Which is also awful because subscription services can be shut down at any time. How is Nintendo going to rectify the problem with Switch's successor? Are they just going to say "Sucks to be you, try this new thing."?

Yes, as would all companies.  Ps4 brought pay for online, ps5 still has it.  Companies aren't here to make you happy, they exist to make money.  

Then how can they make money while pissing off their customers?



CaptainExplosion said:
Chrkeller said:

Yes, as would all companies.  Ps4 brought pay for online, ps5 still has it.  Companies aren't here to make you happy, they exist to make money.  

Then how can they make money while pissing off their customers?

*shakes head*

They aren't pissing off the masses, just a few niche gamers.

YOUR OPINION ISNT UNIVSERSAL!

I really can't spell it out anymore simply.



Chrkeller said:
CaptainExplosion said:

Then how can they make money while pissing off their customers?

*shakes head*

They aren't pissing off the masses, just a few niche gamers.

YOUR OPINION ISNT UNIVSERSAL!

I really can't spell it out anymore simply.

Well then why can't they just give us LEGAL ALTERNATIVES to ROM sites THAT DON'T SUCK?



CaptainExplosion said:
Chrkeller said:

*shakes head*

They aren't pissing off the masses, just a few niche gamers.

YOUR OPINION ISNT UNIVSERSAL!

I really can't spell it out anymore simply.

Well then why can't they just give us LEGAL ALTERNATIVES to ROM sites THAT DON'T SUCK?

BECAUSE THEY MAKE MORE MONEY FROM SUBSCRIPTIONS!