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Rank the Switch as a console!

10 25 25.77%
 
9 33 34.02%
 
8 26 26.80%
 
7 7 7.22%
 
6 2 2.06%
 
5 0 0%
 
4 2 2.06%
 
3 2 2.06%
 
2 0 0%
 
1 0 0%
 
Total:97
Alistair said:
javi741 said:

I give the Switch a solid 9. It has one of the greatest game libraries we've seen in any console in history. The Switch already has the 5th most 80+ Metascore games in console history only behind the PS2,Ps3,PS4 and Xbox 360 and we're only about half way through the Switch's lifecycle which really shows the sheer amount of quality games the Switch has not only from 1st Party Nintendo games, but from a 3rd party perspective as well. And the fact that I could play all these triple A experiences on the go is just amazing and I don't think we've ever seen a portable device like the Switch be able to take full current gen console experiences on the go.

Before the Switch most games on handhelds were primarily made as small spinoff games from their console counterparts, games that were so watered down compared to of experience on console counterparts, or older gen games rereleased on portable devices. As most portable devices in the past never really were on the same level as their console counterparts. While the Switch certainly is less powerful than the PS4 and Xbox One, the ports from those consoles felt competent and similiar enough to feel like you weren't missing out on much when playing this portably on the Switch, as many ports like Witcher 3 and Doom Eternal and many other AAA games didn't cut any content out from the Switch version and while the graphics are downgraded, they still feel like the PS4 versions of those games. That really blew my mind about the Switch and really changed the game when it came to console gaming on the go.

Also the fact that this system comes with 2 controllers out the box with joy cons which allow you to play multiplayer games anytime anywhere is just amazing.

Nintendo's library has been amazing, just simply an amazing system and really changed the gaming landscape and I hope we continue to see Nintendo stick with this Switch route in the future for good.

What's keeping me from giving it a 10 tho is the garbage Nintendo online, lack of features overall, joy con drift is a big issue,plus I'll admit some ports from 1st and 3rd party games have been overpriced on Switch at times. While these issues may seem big, I feel like just the overall concept and game library of the Switch is just so amazing that even if the Switch was literally bad at every other category id still consider it an amazing system.

I am thankful for Nintendo creating this system, and I wish it the very best during the 2nd half of its life.

Did you include all the top Xbox 360 games as Xbox One games? Look at 90+ metacritic games on Switch by Nintendo. Only 3. Mario Odyssey (great!) and Animal Crossing (for those people that like that, I guess), and what feels like a deluxe port of Wii U's Smash Brothers. That's it. Every other game is a port from other systems.

No new Zelda, Donkey Kong, Metroid, or Mario Kart has been made for the system. We've had Xenoblade 2, Fire Emblem, Luigi's Mansion, Splatoon 2, and other <90 games. 

If we were to include the number of PS4 exclusive games rated 90+ you would only get 6 and the PS4 had a whole lifetime so far while the Switch is only half way through. 

Plus even if the games are older they're still high quality experiences with tons of replay that many people didn't get to experience on Switch since they were trapped on Wii U and the fact that the option to play these huge backlog of games on one system is great no matter what way you look at it. Even if you use backwards combability on other console as an argument that these Switch's game library of ports shouldn't be praised more than backwards compatibility on other consoles cause they're older games, the Switch alone has the same amount of 90+ Metascores as the Wii U and Wii combine and completely kills the 2 systems combined when it comes to the shear amount of games with 80+ Metascores.

So if you want to shit on the Switch for using Wii U ports to fill up its library, you might as well shit on every other Nintendo system for far less 80+ Metascore games EVEN WHEN you include the backward compatibility features of the Wii and Wii U and the Switch is only halfway through its lifecycle. Plus these ports have added value with additional content and being able to play console games on the go for the first time portably.

And like I said, your attempt to resort to the "true exclusive" 90+ argument to show that there are barely any exclusive high quality experiences on the Switch is illogical since most other consoles can't even pass 10 games under that criteria and the Switch is only halfway through its lifecycle with close to the amount of PS4 games under that criteria.



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Incredible console. I can't wait for a Pro to refresh a little the performance on big games but really it is the best move Nintendo has made since like the DS.
Still waiting for another banger year to make it my favorite console of all time, but it is on it's way to get there. With just the Botw 2, bayo 3 and MP4 titles already announced it will most def get that title.



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Big Brain Idea #2: 3D World, Bayo 2, Pikmin 3, Tokyo Mirage Sessions, Captain Toad and All Stars are all new games.

Big Brain Idea #3: Nintendo should go 3rd party.

Big Brain Idea #4: Switch isn't that great of a console because it wasn't a $700 cutting edge portable machine at launch.

Big Brain Idea #5: Poor people are entitled to emulate Switch games on their $800 PC. A Switch is too expensive! They need that money for beer!

Last edited by Cerebralbore101 - on 04 March 2021

9... this made video games great again and the best is yet to come!



Switch!!!

I would personally give it a 9.

The hardware has some small problems, like the joycon drift( it is a problem with an easy fix, but really annyoing), and some QOL could also been there, like folders and themed background, but it's games are godlike,And that's why we are all here.



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These days true exclusives are only getting rarer and rarer.

We live in a world where Xbox first party games make their way to Switch, Playstation first party games like Horizon and Days Gone are going to PC, and third parties basically never lock their games to one platform because there's just too much money to be made by spreading it around.

Switch may have only a small number of "real exclusives" but that's a sign of the times more than anything; a few gens ago stuff like Octopath would've stayed Switch only, but on the other hand we wouldn't have gotten Ori or Cuphead.



Bet with Liquidlaser: I say PS5 and Xbox Series will sell more than 56 million combined by the end of 2023.

curl-6 said:

These days true exclusives are only getting rarer and rarer.

We live in a world where Xbox first party games make their way to Switch, Playstation first party games like Horizon and Days Gone are going to PC, and third parties basically never lock their games to one platform because there's just too much money to be made by spreading it around.

Switch may have only a small number of "real exclusives" but that's a sign of the times more than anything; a few gens ago stuff like Octopath would've stayed Switch only, but on the other hand we wouldn't have gotten Ori or Cuphead.

Splatoon 2
Mario Odyssey
Xenoblade 2
Mario Plus Rabbids
ARMs
Xenoblade Torna (stand alone game release)
Fire Emblem Warriors
Age of Calamity
Cadence of Hyrule
Fire Emblem Three Houses
Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3
Luigi's Mansion 3
Mario Maker 2
Paper Mario OK
Kirby Star Allies
Yoshi's Crafted World
Link's Awakening Remake
Smash Ultimate
Astral Chain
Animal Crossing New Horizons

I dunno man, I just listed over 20 non cross gen true exclusives off the top of my head (and there are more than I listed).  Saying the Switch doesn't seem to have a lot of them doesn't seem to make sense.  I think it is safe to assume that any Nintendo IP, be it 1st or 2nd party, will not be going to any other platforms in the near future.  Now 3rd party exclusives sure, outside of whatever contract Nintendo has with the publisher, I can see most of them at least going to PC.

But to accumulate a list like this in just 4 years, which puts PS4 and XB1 to shame in their first 4 years without even counting "console exclusives" or WiiU ports...I would call that anything but a small number of true exclusives.

I see a lot of people try to spin that the Switch mainly just has WiiU ports pushing the console, but that clearly isn't the case and when you break it down it looks like more of a reach than anything else.

So while exclusives are indeed less common in the industry these days, I feel like Nintendo will be the outlier (as they are in so many things).  As long as Nintendo is making consoles, 1st and 2nd party Switch games are pretty much a lock to be true exclusives.



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Shiken said:
curl-6 said:

These days true exclusives are only getting rarer and rarer.

We live in a world where Xbox first party games make their way to Switch, Playstation first party games like Horizon and Days Gone are going to PC, and third parties basically never lock their games to one platform because there's just too much money to be made by spreading it around.

Switch may have only a small number of "real exclusives" but that's a sign of the times more than anything; a few gens ago stuff like Octopath would've stayed Switch only, but on the other hand we wouldn't have gotten Ori or Cuphead.

Splatoon 2
Mario Odyssey
Xenoblade 2
Mario Plus Rabbids
ARMs
Xenoblade Torna (stand alone game release)
Fire Emblem Warriors
Age of Calamity
Cadence of Hyrule
Fire Emblem Three Houses
Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3
Luigi's Mansion 3
Mario Maker 2
Paper Mario OK
Kirby Star Allies
Yoshi's Crafted World
Link's Awakening Remake
Smash Ultimate
Astral Chain
Animal Crossing New Horizons

I dunno man, I just listed over 20 non cross gen true exclusives off the top of my head (and there are more than I listed).  Saying the Switch doesn't seem to have a lot of them doesn't seem to make sense.  I think it is safe to assume that any Nintendo IP, be it 1st or 2nd party, will not be going to any other platforms in the near future.  Now 3rd party exclusives sure, outside of whatever contract Nintendo has with the publisher, I can see most of them at least going to PC.

But to accumulate a list like this in just 4 years, which puts PS4 and XB1 to shame in their first 4 years without even counting "console exclusives" or WiiU ports...I would call that anything but a small number of true exclusives.

I see a lot of people try to spin that the Switch mainly just has WiiU ports pushing the console, but that clearly isn't the case and when you break it down it looks like more of a reach than anything else.

So while exclusives are indeed less common in the industry these days, I feel like Nintendo will be the outlier (as they are in so many things).  As long as Nintendo is making consoles, 1st and 2nd party Switch games are pretty much a lock to be true exclusives.

That's still a relatively small list of exclusives compared to say, the Wii, and even then Fire Emblem Warriors and Link's Awakening aren't exclusives and Torna is an expansion.

That said, Switch is a long way from done so over its remaining life it could bulk up and accumulate an exclusives list more in line with what I'd expect from a successful Nintendo system.

Last edited by curl-6 - on 05 March 2021

Bet with Liquidlaser: I say PS5 and Xbox Series will sell more than 56 million combined by the end of 2023.

curl-6 said:
Shiken said:

Splatoon 2
Mario Odyssey
Xenoblade 2
Mario Plus Rabbids
ARMs
Xenoblade Torna (stand alone game release)
Fire Emblem Warriors
Age of Calamity
Cadence of Hyrule
Fire Emblem Three Houses
Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3
Luigi's Mansion 3
Mario Maker 2
Paper Mario OK
Kirby Star Allies
Yoshi's Crafted World
Link's Awakening Remake
Smash Ultimate
Astral Chain
Animal Crossing New Horizons

I dunno man, I just listed over 20 non cross gen true exclusives off the top of my head (and there are more than I listed).  Saying the Switch doesn't seem to have a lot of them doesn't seem to make sense.  I think it is safe to assume that any Nintendo IP, be it 1st or 2nd party, will not be going to any other platforms in the near future.  Now 3rd party exclusives sure, outside of whatever contract Nintendo has with the publisher, I can see most of them at least going to PC.

But to accumulate a list like this in just 4 years, which puts PS4 and XB1 to shame in their first 4 years without even counting "console exclusives" or WiiU ports...I would call that anything but a small number of true exclusives.

I see a lot of people try to spin that the Switch mainly just has WiiU ports pushing the console, but that clearly isn't the case and when you break it down it looks like more of a reach than anything else.

So while exclusives are indeed less common in the industry these days, I feel like Nintendo will be the outlier (as they are in so many things).  As long as Nintendo is making consoles, 1st and 2nd party Switch games are pretty much a lock to be true exclusives.

That's still a relatively small list of exclusives compared to say, the Wii, and even then Fire Emblem Warriors and Link's Awakening aren't exclusives and Torna is an expansion.

That said, Switch is a long way from done so over its remaining life it could bulk up and accumulate an exclusives list more in line with what I'd expect from a successful Nintendo system.

Link's Awakening is a full on remake, so it is indeed an exclusive.



Cerebralbore101 said:
curl-6 said:

That's still a relatively small list of exclusives compared to say, the Wii, and even then Fire Emblem Warriors and Link's Awakening aren't exclusives and Torna is an expansion.

That said, Switch is a long way from done so over its remaining life it could bulk up and accumulate an exclusives list more in line with what I'd expect from a successful Nintendo system.

Link's Awakening is a full on remake, so it is indeed an exclusive.

Remakes =/= Exclusives

I can just as easily play the original game on the Game Boy or DX on the Game Boy Color or the Virtual Console re-release on the 3DS.