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Shiken said:
curl-6 said:

Torna was designed as an expansion and it remained one; it is not its own game, and remakes are not new games either.

I stand by most of Switch's best first party content being recycled Wii U ports, and its actual exclusive lineup being subpar by Nintendo standards.

It's a Nintendo system so that's what I'll compare it against, and when set next to their other stronger efforts it falls short thus far.

Again though, it's a long way from done hopefully so by the end of its life it may have surpassed them all, but this is why I give it an 8/10 and not a 10/10 at this date.

If Torna is not a stand alone prequel game, what can I walk into walmart and buy a physical copy, and play it without the need of to own or play Xenoblade 2?

DLC is content added to a game, Torna is its own game with its own 30-40 hour length.

Your Link's Awakening logic is fine as long as you look at Miles Morales and Demon Souls as DLC and a remaster as well.  (you probably do though, which is fine).

Your preference of WiiU ports is your opinion.  I enjoyed the new content more and I did not even have a WiiU for games outside of the Zelda ports, so we will have to agree to disagree here.  You have every right to thay stance, it is the people who never even owned a WiiU or Switch saying it that comes off as reaching downplay.

I'm sure I can remember other expansions getting their own releases back in the day, on PC in particular? Personally I wish it was more common as I would've bought Bowser's Fury day 1 had I been able to do so without re-buying 3D World.

And yeah I view Miles Morales as an expansion and Demon's Souls as a remaster.

Fair enough, I will say that as a Wii U owner I still really love the Switch. I just feel it has room for improvement, and hopefully it will do just that as all signs seem to point to it still having years left to go. 



Bet with Liquidlaser: I say PS5 and Xbox Series will sell more than 56 million combined by the end of 2023.