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curl-6 said:

For years, it seemed a common claim that once the new consoles released, third party support for Switch would quickly vanish.

Well, PS5 and Xbox Series are out, yet the Switch is looking to have perhaps it's best year to date in terms of third party software. Here's just some of what's been confirmed so far, and it's only February:

This sounds like gaslighting to me.

The PS5/ XSX aren't even 6 months old - of course the Switch will still have 3rd party support considering how well it is selling. 

And there are many games that are still being made for last gen.

The only way Switch 3rd party support would have dried up is if it didn't really have any to begin with. 



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twintail said:
curl-6 said:

For years, it seemed a common claim that once the new consoles released, third party support for Switch would quickly vanish.

Well, PS5 and Xbox Series are out, yet the Switch is looking to have perhaps it's best year to date in terms of third party software. Here's just some of what's been confirmed so far, and it's only February:

This sounds like gaslighting to me.

The PS5/ XSX aren't even 6 months old - of course the Switch will still have 3rd party support considering how well it is selling. 

And there are many games that are still being made for last gen.

The only way Switch 3rd party support would have dried up is if it didn't really have any to begin with. 

Gaslighting is certainly one term for it yes. Another is "concern trolling", people pretending to be worried but in reality gleeful at the thought of things going badly. Thankfully you're right, it was always just bad logic and intentions behind the "third party support will fall off a cliff" posts.



Bet with Liquidlaser: I say PS5 and Xbox Series will sell more than 56 million combined by the end of 2023.

IcaroRibeiro said:

Honestly, this feels more like 3rd party support came really late on Switch. Devs were all against Ninty until sales made them change their minds lol

No, third party support was strong right from the start, reviewers neither ignored the Swtch games.

Switch had 85 games with a MetaScore of 75 or better in its first 10 months:



To be fair, the sales of the new systems have been bottlenecked so hard they might as well not be there. So it's going to take a while until they get enough users to threaten the Switch's marketshare.



You know it deserves the GOTY.

Come join The 2018 Obscure Game Monthly Review Thread.

Conina said:
IcaroRibeiro said:

Honestly, this feels more like 3rd party support came really late on Switch. Devs were all against Ninty until sales made them change their minds lol

No, third party support was strong right from the start, reviewers neither ignored the Swtch games.

Switch had 85 games with a MetaScore of 75 or better in its first 10 months:

I don't measure support by the number of games released. Plus even though I haven't stated clearly I was excluding indies because I'm very well aware indies have a very good presence on Switch, I should have write that 

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I'm sure this is counting 7th and 6th gen ports, not 8th gen titles. I don't see this as support, but the opposite of support, is releasing scraps to make some quick money. I don't bother with those ports at all, I've even bought some of them and I think they are positive for Switch ecosystem, but really getting support i.e. games developed for Switch (either exclusives or multiplat) or even porting current gen games, that's count are really supporting and the real support only becomes clear and visible for me last year 



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Switch is a mobile device. The DS didn't get killed by the Xbox 360 or the Wii, why would the Switch. I still think the Switch will lose its home audience, but that takes a year. Nobody I know can buy the PS5 or Series X yet (in fact I'm the only person I know with a Series X). Nintendo should do the smart thing and release Breath of the Wild 2 with a new Switch 2, and a new console at the same time, in March 2022.



IcaroRibeiro said:
Conina said:

No, third party support was strong right from the start, reviewers neither ignored the Swtch games.

Switch had 85 games with a MetaScore of 75 or better in its first 10 months:

I don't measure support by the number of games released.

Okay....

I'm sure this is counting 7th and 6th gen ports, not 8th gen titles. I don't see this as support, but the opposite of support, is releasing scraps to make some quick money. I don't bother with those ports at all, I've even bought some of them and I think they are positive for Switch ecosystem, but really getting support i.e. games developed for Switch (either exclusives or multiplat) or even porting current gen games, that's count are really supporting and the real support only becomes clear and visible for me last year

Then I'm wondering what changed last year / was better support compared to previous years in your opinion.

If we don't count indie games (even if they are awesome like Hades) and ports of older games as support... what is still remaining as 2020 third party support on Switch?

Which 2020 AA or AAA third party games were released contemporary on Switch and other platforms, not much later than on other platforms? Which 2020 AA or AAA third party games were released exclusive on Switch?

Where are the Switch versions of 8th gen Assassin's Creeds, Call of Duties, Tomb Raiders, Hitmans, Yakuzas, GTA5/RDR2, Jedi Fallen Order...?

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If anything, cross gen games will continue to be a thing for a while longer due to Switch.
PS4 will especially benefit from this from third party devs.



tag:"reviews only matter for the real hardcore gamer"

There isn't actually much difference in the list except Capcom has decided to give the Switch 3DS-tier support now instead of just old ports. Well except of course Monster Hunter is not Nintendo exclusive anymore.

Crash Team Racing and things like Octopath Traveller were already on Switch, so that level of support (late Crash 4 port, late Tony Hawk port, new 2D sprite lower budget RPGs from Square-Enix) are kinda par for the course.

Lets see if there are more games like Witcher 3, DOOM Eternal, Mortal Kombat, or Dragon Quest XI's scale, but it would seem those games will become harder to port if the base line becomes the PS5/XBSS. 

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Conina said:

Then I'm wondering what changed last year / was better support compared to previous years in your opinion.

If we don't count indie games (even if they are awesome like Hades) and ports of older games as support... what is still remaining as 2020 third party support on Switch?

Just to show what I mean.

These are the 2020 Switch releases with a MetaScore of 80 or above.

Most of them are very enjoyable on Switch, it is awesome to play the old and new first party games, revisit ports of older AAA games like the BioShock/Borderlands/Metro series on a mobile device or to play new indie gems like Hades/Horace or older indie gems like To the Moon/Kentucky Route Zero:

But if we kick out first party games, all indies and ports of games older than 2015, all that's left is this:

And that is similar support to the previous Switch years: 1 - 2 "impossible ports" of 8th gen AAA games and the rest AA titles.