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bowserthedog said:

And with Switch Pro on the horizon 3rd party support will no longer be a concern.

What does that mean? Do people think the Switch Pro will get exclusive games and just forget about the 80million (soon to be 100 million)? 



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Jranation said:
bowserthedog said:

And with Switch Pro on the horizon 3rd party support will no longer be a concern.

What does that mean? Do people think the Switch Pro will get exclusive games and just forget about the 80million (soon to be 100 million)? 

Only if Nintendo changes to iterations instead of generations.  Following the NEW 3DS rules...

Like imagine there is a pro, so you have your high end model and the low end base model.  Both models will still get full 1st/2nd party support, but 3rd parties will be allowed to only port to the pro model of power is an issue (if the install base grows enough to support it mind you).

Then a few years later, release another upgrade (call it a pro 2).  The original Switch would then be phased out completely and the old Pro would become the new low end model.  The "Pro 2" would be the high end.

Then basically rinse and repeat till (if/when) the market no longer supports it.  Anything short of that and any upgrade will not abandon the base model at all without a full generational leap, as the install base is just too big.

But as more time passes, this is less and less likely as well.  At this point, I see no substantial upgrade till the Switch 2 in 2023-24.  If 3rd parties still support the base model with having some games with the Switch in mind (like Fenix Rising) and enhanced for the other consoles, or as 3rd party exclusive deals (like MH Rise, MH Stories 2, SMTV, Bravely 2, Resident Evil Outrage, etc) then the current model will have no problem making it that far regardless of what haters think.



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Why would Nintendo release a switch 2 when sales are so great?



Jranation said:
bowserthedog said:

And with Switch Pro on the horizon 3rd party support will no longer be a concern.

What does that mean? Do people think the Switch Pro will get exclusive games and just forget about the 80million (soon to be 100 million)? 

The same type of games that are coming to Switch now will still come to Switch OG.  But more demanding ports will only come to the pro.  Games that wouldn't have run well enough on Switch OG.  So Switch OG won't lose any support. 



I view the Switch Pro as something that is a cross being a new iteration and a new generation. The graphics leap will be generational but it will share similar architecture with the previous switch so that its easy to make games for both systems and old games automatically work on the new system.



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If this was the whole year's lineup that'd be one thing, but it can't be emphasized enough that this is just what we know as of less than two months into the year, in a time when games are often announced at short notice, like Crash 4 which was just announced a month out.
Heck, it's possible by the end of the year we may get the new Resident Evil game leaked by the same insider who leaked MH Rise, which he says is similar in budget to RE8.



Bet with Liquidlaser: I say PS5 and Xbox Series will sell more than 56 million combined by the end of 2023.

Soundwave said:

There isn't actually much difference in the list except Capcom has decided to give the Switch 3DS-tier support now instead of just old ports. Well except of course Monster Hunter is not Nintendo exclusive anymore.

Crash Team Racing and things like Octopath Traveller were already on Switch, so that level of support (late Crash 4 port, late Tony Hawk port, new 2D sprite lower budget RPGs from Square-Enix) are kinda par for the course.

Lets see if there are more games like Witcher 3, DOOM Eternal, Mortal Kombat, or Dragon Quest XI's scale, but it would seem those games will become harder to port if the base line becomes the PS5/XBSS. 

Oh the next dragon quest is coming to switch all right, DQ's main market has always been japan.



Chrkeller said:

Why would Nintendo release a switch 2 when sales are so great?

They aren't anytime soon, but there are a few people that act like it needs to happen for major 3rd party game.  This is of course in spite of the fact that the Switch has proven that Nintendo found support without those games anyway, so it is a non factor.

Thats why I myself slate it for 2023-24, because that would be a solid 6-7 years on the market before getting a full successor.  The closer we get to that however, the less likely I see a substantial "pro" upgrade happening as it would be phased out too soon.  Unless it comes this year, the best I can see are smaller upgrades rather than a jump like the PS4 Pro and One X were.



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Chrkeller said:

Why would Nintendo release a switch 2 when sales are so great?

Agreed. If ahave a game company, I will wait for Sony/Microsoft to grow in userbase and launch my games on PS4/XBOXone/Switch/Pc. 

The Microsoft and sony new-gen only in 2023. 



bowserthedog said:
Jranation said:

What does that mean? Do people think the Switch Pro will get exclusive games and just forget about the 80million (soon to be 100 million)? 

The same type of games that are coming to Switch now will still come to Switch OG.  But more demanding ports will only come to the pro.  Games that wouldn't have run well enough on Switch OG.  So Switch OG won't lose any support. 

Shiken said:
Jranation said:

What does that mean? Do people think the Switch Pro will get exclusive games and just forget about the 80million (soon to be 100 million)? 

Only if Nintendo changes to iterations instead of generations.  Following the NEW 3DS rules...

Like imagine there is a pro, so you have your high end model and the low end base model.  Both models will still get full 1st/2nd party support, but 3rd parties will be allowed to only port to the pro model of power is an issue (if the install base grows enough to support it mind you).

Then a few years later, release another upgrade (call it a pro 2).  The original Switch would then be phased out completely and the old Pro would become the new low end model.  The "Pro 2" would be the high end.

Then basically rinse and repeat till (if/when) the market no longer supports it.  Anything short of that and any upgrade will not abandon the base model at all without a full generational leap, as the install base is just too big.

But as more time passes, this is less and less likely as well.  At this point, I see no substantial upgrade till the Switch 2 in 2023-24.  If 3rd parties still support the base model with having some games with the Switch in mind (like Fenix Rising) and enhanced for the other consoles, or as 3rd party exclusive deals (like MH Rise, MH Stories 2, SMTV, Bravely 2, Resident Evil Outrage, etc) then the current model will have no problem making it that far regardless of what haters think.

I feel like it is still a bad idea and waste resources on porting games for a smaller audience. I would like to be proven wrong if they do decide to make it real. I feel like games like Cyberpunk, MH World, Assassins Creed, and other big 3rd party games that was playable on the PS4 and XB1 will be more suitable to port it for the Switch 2 at its launch year than the Switch Pro. 



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