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Tackled this a few months back, and then I said this:

I can see Nintendo releasing the TV only model as they already done the handheld only version.
And for this they would keep the same SoC and keep the same power envelope with the current devices.

My preference would be the hybrid Switch+ with improved battery life and performance.



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I expect the new model will allow us to play "docked mode" undocked. As almost every single Switch game features docked mode settings, the new model will just set itself to "docked" when you are playing in portable mode. Alternatively, users could be able to select "save battery", which would play the games in original handheld mode and prolong play-time by a few hours. This solution strikes me as very simple and easy for the users, while adding lots of value to the product without Nintendo having to put much work into; exactly something Nintendo would do.

For docked mode, I expect some sort of additional "power mode". Maybe automatic upscaling for games that haven't been optimized for the new hardware. But if devs want, they can make use of the extra power to optimize their games (instead of just an automatic resolution bump or smoother frame rate). 

Probably 64GB of internal storage, as this is most likely as cheap and widely available as 32GB was back in 2017.

Basically, I don't expect Nintendo to push any boundaries. That's their philosophy: They are not going to cram the most impressive CPU into that thing, just grab what is already available and cheap and safe to implement, while adding value to the product. Same happened with the Gameboy Color, the DSi and the New 3DS: Nintendo didn't design these consoles with a mindset of "let's make this powerful". Instead, they looked at the state of electronics and said: "X years have passed since the original product. This is the tried and proven technology that we can implement into the new model without increasing costs." If screens have progressed to make 1080p screens as cheap as 720p screens were in 2017, so be it. If there's an X2 processor that's as cheap as the X1 was in 2017, let's put it in. If 64GB of storage is as cheap as 32GB were in 2017, why not include that? That's basically how Nintendo thinks.



SKMBlake said:
B6a6es said:

Model ...... not New console

And No, Nintendo will never release a next gen switch console next when the Switch is still at its prime and been on the market only for 3.5 years (Nintendo consoles usual life-span is 5-6 years)

The Wii U was basically a Wii model

And Nintendo always release new models during the lifecycle of their devices

The Wii was just a GameCube remodel.



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d21lewis said:
SKMBlake said:

The Wii U was basically a Wii model

And Nintendo always release new models during the lifecycle of their devices

The Wii was just a GameCube remodel.

Exactly. After all, it could play the same discs.



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d21lewis said:
SKMBlake said:

The Wii U was basically a Wii model

And Nintendo always release new models during the lifecycle of their devices

The Wii was just a GameCube remodel.

I know and the Wii U was a beefed up beefed up Game Cube, that makes the Game Cube the best console ever



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RolStoppable said:
d21lewis said:

The Wii was just a GameCube remodel.

Exactly. After all, it could play the same discs.

Well purely form a technological standpoint the Wii was more or less a "Gamecube Pro" with a different imput method and a new OS.

Perhaps this is the best example of why a game console isn't solely defined by hardware specifications.



Louie said:

I expect the new model will allow us to play "docked mode" undocked. As almost every single Switch game features docked mode settings, the new model will just set itself to "docked" when you are playing in portable mode. Alternatively, users could be able to select "save battery", which would play the games in original handheld mode and prolong play-time by a few hours. This solution strikes me as very simple and easy for the users, while adding lots of value to the product without Nintendo having to put much work into; exactly something Nintendo would do.

For docked mode, I expect some sort of additional "power mode". Maybe automatic upscaling for games that haven't been optimized for the new hardware. But if devs want, they can make use of the extra power to optimize their games (instead of just an automatic resolution bump or smoother frame rate). 

Probably 64GB of internal storage, as this is most likely as cheap and widely available as 32GB was back in 2017.

Basically, I don't expect Nintendo to push any boundaries. That's their philosophy: They are not going to cram the most impressive CPU into that thing, just grab what is already available and cheap and safe to implement, while adding value to the product. Same happened with the Gameboy Color, the DSi and the New 3DS: Nintendo didn't design these consoles with a mindset of "let's make this powerful". Instead, they looked at the state of electronics and said: "X years have passed since the original product. This is the tried and proven technology that we can implement into the new model without increasing costs." If screens have progressed to make 1080p screens as cheap as 720p screens were in 2017, so be it. If there's an X2 processor that's as cheap as the X1 was in 2017, let's put it in. If 64GB of storage is as cheap as 32GB were in 2017, why not include that? That's basically how Nintendo thinks.

That's what I expect the Switch Plus to be, using a Tegra X2 or equivalent.

freebs2 said:
RolStoppable said:

Exactly. After all, it could play the same discs.

Well purely form a technological standpoint the Wii was more or less a "Gamecube Pro" with a different imput method and a new OS.

Perhaps this is the best example of why a game console isn't solely defined by hardware specifications.

We see that with the current gen controls and OS. "This Is The Way."



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TomaTito said:

Tackled this a few months back, and then I said this:

I can see Nintendo releasing the TV only model as they already done the handheld only version.
And for this they would keep the same SoC and keep the same power envelope with the current devices.

My preference would be the hybrid Switch+ with improved battery life and performance.

This a Switch TV, thats cheaper than the Switch (handheld) would be a awesome thing for Nintendo sales.

Switch at 299$ is sold at a decent bit of profit imo (wouldn't be surprised if they now have like 50$ profit on each sale).
By removeing the battery, Screen, dock parts, ect... and makeing a Switch TV only in a cheap houseing.... you could probably save 100$ or so.

150$ Switch TV, that runs all Switch games (as docked) as well as the current switch does.



Don't even think about a new Switch unless you give us a mobile DLSS solution. There is no point in delivering the equivalent of a New3DS with some mild spec improvements, we just had a mild upgrade to the more efficient 12nm process. However, there could be a silent internal revision with some tweaks like 4K output support that might be useful for apps like video/game streaming.

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My guess is that it will be something like a larger screen Switch (like 3DS XL).

I really don't expect any changes to Framerate, Resolution, or Operating System; rather, any SoC changes would go to support an even longer battery life and possibly allow for removing the cooling fan and vents all together.

Along with that, I think they might change the exterior design a little to feel a little more seamless, as far as appearance and feel are concerned.

Other possible additions to the Nintendo Switch family could be: A Cheaper TV Only Switch (Like the Vita TV) or A Cheap Clamshell Switch Lite (Like GBA SP). Though, I think those would be more suitable for end of life low price models.

A higher performance Nintendo Switch could happen Fall 2021, but with the Switch user base close to 100m by then, it really wouldn't make any sense to split the user base with any exclusive games.

Then it would just be a higher priced revision for enthusiasts.

I just don't think Nintendo is going to aim at going that far up market to then be compared against the PS5 and XB4.