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Another thing I just thought of. I'm not sure the price: gorilla glass screen.
I agree with anyone who's said better battery life. I don't require it, but it could never hurt. This year has been a little different since I spent so much time inside, but I'm an outdoorsy guy who's often away from an outlet for 10+ hours, with my Switch. I love sitting and playing under a tree, or in a park somewhere. The high brightness levels I have it on mean that even lowfi games tend to eat battery. Normally, I have a battery pack on me, but I'd rather not.

I would love to have a longer lasting battery, larger screen, and a better quality screen (more scratch resistant without the need of some third party protector). I wouldn't mind a Switch Pocket either, smaller screen, easier to carry around without a laptop case.



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dharh said:

TV only would be when I might buy it.

Yeah, I would appreciate it too.

Jumpin said:

I would love to have a longer lasting battery, larger screen, and a better quality screen (..)

This!! Some things of this coming then, i think.



Am I the only one who thinks that "upgraded" versions of consoles are pretty much never worth it? The extra power will only be used by a handful of games and it is not really a huge reason to upgrade. Exclusives will be extremely few games, if any. The Game Boy Color is a huge outlier here, born out of a lot of particular circumstances that are not applicable 20 years later.

If I was in charge of Nintendo I wouldn't really release any upgrades and just concentrate on making sure the "Switch 2" or whatever is a success; giving gamers what they want and what not. Granted it will be hard for the next generation of Nintendo to be as successful as this one but no reason not to try.

If they do have to release an upgraded version I'd just keep it simple, call it the "Switch plus" or whatever. Give it a 1080p display and the possibility in theory to run games in 4k (in practice the Switch probably lacks the power to run games at that resolution). Give it a small power boost (to at least run games at 1080p and beyond, even if full 4k is impossible) and keep the upgraded battery/processor from the "red box" Switch.

Price it at the same price as the old standard Switch (which gets discontinued).

Release a similar upgrade to the "lite" model in 2022 as well. Larger screen, with a 1080p screen and maybe an even longer battery life if that is possible, with no price hikes or drops.



Cobretti2 said:

I'm happy to wait 2 more years for a real successor and better thought to the whole system and an OS rich with features.

Not sure how a more powerful dock would work if that is all they released for this model of switch? Is the port on Switch fast enough to help with computational power? If not that would mean a new port on a revised switch, which means we would have to upgrade the switch to get the benefit. If that is the case they may as well do it properly with the next gen switch model.

I saw someone mention OLED screen. TBH not sure I would want one. I noticed that the latest OLED screens on smartphone experience screen burn with 2-3years of daily use. I have older phones with OLED screens that do not experience such bad screen burn. Guess they cut back on quality of materials or manufacturing process.

uhhhh wut?

You're gonna be waiting a lot longer than that if you are waiting for Switch 2. More like 3.5 to 4 years. Nintendo has zero reasons to kill off Switch anytime early, and 2 years would be extremely early.



tack50 said:

Am I the only one who thinks that "upgraded" versions of consoles are pretty much never worth it? The extra power will only be used by a handful of games and it is not really a huge reason to upgrade. Exclusives will be extremely few games, if any. The Game Boy Color is a huge outlier here, born out of a lot of particular circumstances that are not applicable 20 years later.

If I was in charge of Nintendo I wouldn't really release any upgrades and just concentrate on making sure the "Switch 2" or whatever is a success; giving gamers what they want and what not. Granted it will be hard for the next generation of Nintendo to be as successful as this one but no reason not to try.

If they do have to release an upgraded version I'd just keep it simple, call it the "Switch plus" or whatever. Give it a 1080p display and the possibility in theory to run games in 4k (in practice the Switch probably lacks the power to run games at that resolution). Give it a small power boost (to at least run games at 1080p and beyond, even if full 4k is impossible) and keep the upgraded battery/processor from the "red box" Switch.

Price it at the same price as the old standard Switch (which gets discontinued).

Release a similar upgrade to the "lite" model in 2022 as well. Larger screen, with a 1080p screen and maybe an even longer battery life if that is possible, with no price hikes or drops.

Except that upgrades make Nintendo more money. Some people DO upgrade their system, and others will buy the system for the first time once the better upgraded system is out. Nintendo is in the business of making money, so upgrades do make sense.

Also Switch 2 is several years out, so just concentrating on making Switch 2 good is not a good business strategy. They of course have their R&D teams working on making Switch 2 good, but in the intervening years they currently have the hottest video game system ever outside of the DS so of course they are going to focus on making as much as they can from it, which includes upgrades.



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With the last update, they say your save data automatically downloads to your Switch. That's one of the reasons why I loved Xbox and bought so many of them. With that option, and some of your suggestions, yes--I would buy a home only version of the Switch. It would need external HDD support. Then I'd just pick and choose which games I take on the go while the rest are stored on my home Switch. In fact, I love the idea, especially if it upped performance!



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Slownenberg said:
Cobretti2 said:

I'm happy to wait 2 more years for a real successor and better thought to the whole system and an OS rich with features.

Not sure how a more powerful dock would work if that is all they released for this model of switch? Is the port on Switch fast enough to help with computational power? If not that would mean a new port on a revised switch, which means we would have to upgrade the switch to get the benefit. If that is the case they may as well do it properly with the next gen switch model.

I saw someone mention OLED screen. TBH not sure I would want one. I noticed that the latest OLED screens on smartphone experience screen burn with 2-3years of daily use. I have older phones with OLED screens that do not experience such bad screen burn. Guess they cut back on quality of materials or manufacturing process.

uhhhh wut?

You're gonna be waiting a lot longer than that if you are waiting for Switch 2. More like 3.5 to 4 years. Nintendo has zero reasons to kill off Switch anytime early, and 2 years would be extremely early.

Maybe, Nintendo tends to fall on their own sword towards the end of a gen. They like the pain I guess.

If they managed 4 years so be it. Happy to wait.

I cannot see any added benefit that justifies a new version of the console with the minor upgrade that they would possibly do now.



 

 

tack50 said:

Am I the only one who thinks that "upgraded" versions of consoles are pretty much never worth it? The extra power will only be used by a handful of games and it is not really a huge reason to upgrade. Exclusives will be extremely few games, if any. The Game Boy Color is a huge outlier here, born out of a lot of particular circumstances that are not applicable 20 years later.

If I was in charge of Nintendo I wouldn't really release any upgrades and just concentrate on making sure the "Switch 2" or whatever is a success; giving gamers what they want and what not. Granted it will be hard for the next generation of Nintendo to be as successful as this one but no reason not to try.

If they do have to release an upgraded version I'd just keep it simple, call it the "Switch plus" or whatever. Give it a 1080p display and the possibility in theory to run games in 4k (in practice the Switch probably lacks the power to run games at that resolution). Give it a small power boost (to at least run games at 1080p and beyond, even if full 4k is impossible) and keep the upgraded battery/processor from the "red box" Switch.

Price it at the same price as the old standard Switch (which gets discontinued).

Release a similar upgrade to the "lite" model in 2022 as well. Larger screen, with a 1080p screen and maybe an even longer battery life if that is possible, with no price hikes or drops.

I think it's probably true for a number of people, but not for everyone. Many want to upgrade their hardware after X time (for me, I am fine doing it every 2-3 years), and other people don't like the original models, and want something more aesthetically pleasing or with sufficient features. It is different for every generation.

Often updates opens up the market to a much wider audience: the original DS sold decently, but the DS Lite and DSi made it one of the best selling consoles of all time with DS Lite selling 94 million and DSi selling 41 million more. GBA SP sold 43.5 million of the 81 million GBAs. These are cases where more people felt new models were worth it than the original release. I think when it came to DS, it wouldn't have been nearly as successful without the updates.

New generations, the way Nintendo has done them, are crap. It's only guaranteed to be good if Switch 2 is both a new thing + Switch 1 deluxe rolled into one - kind of like how mostly every other electronic platform of any sort does it. I'd be really excited for a new generation Switch that maintains and even improves what I already have on my old Switch.

Here's my internal reaction to that if it happens:

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Jumpin said:

Another thing I just thought of. I'm not sure the price: gorilla glass screen.
I agree with anyone who's said better battery life. I don't require it, but it could never hurt. This year has been a little different since I spent so much time inside, but I'm an outdoorsy guy who's often away from an outlet for 10+ hours, with my Switch. I love sitting and playing under a tree, or in a park somewhere. The high brightness levels I have it on mean that even lowfi games tend to eat battery. Normally, I have a battery pack on me, but I'd rather not.

I would love to have a longer lasting battery, larger screen, and a better quality screen (more scratch resistant without the need of some third party protector). I wouldn't mind a Switch Pocket either, smaller screen, easier to carry around without a laptop case.

to be completly fair, the plastic screen is part of the reason why the switch is so durable, something that might shatter gorilla glass would just casue a minor dent in a plastic screem



TheBraveGallade said:
Jumpin said:

Another thing I just thought of. I'm not sure the price: gorilla glass screen.
I agree with anyone who's said better battery life. I don't require it, but it could never hurt. This year has been a little different since I spent so much time inside, but I'm an outdoorsy guy who's often away from an outlet for 10+ hours, with my Switch. I love sitting and playing under a tree, or in a park somewhere. The high brightness levels I have it on mean that even lowfi games tend to eat battery. Normally, I have a battery pack on me, but I'd rather not.

I would love to have a longer lasting battery, larger screen, and a better quality screen (more scratch resistant without the need of some third party protector). I wouldn't mind a Switch Pocket either, smaller screen, easier to carry around without a laptop case.

to be completly fair, the plastic screen is part of the reason why the switch is so durable, something that might shatter gorilla glass would just casue a minor dent in a plastic screem

Most phone screens break because people use them while walking over concrete surfaces, this isn't going to happen with the Switch.

There are other things to consider too: the 297 gram, which is about 2X to 50% heavier than a smartphone, but is also a much larger device, plus it has joycons on the sides with protruding sticks, so less fall acceleration and more impact defense.

My primary worry is the overcare I have to take from things that occur frequently during common usage: scratches from loose piece of something in a carrying case, scratches from sliding into a dock, scratches just from things contacting the screen of the switch when it is sitting somewhere. It will be far less common than phones to drop them over concrete; smartphone screens generally don't crack from dropping onto floors, either.

Anyone who has knocked a switch off a desk or coffee table knows that the screen is most likely not even going to connect with anything, it's the joycons that take the brunt of the damage, with plastic parts snapping/scratching from the force; particularly the plastic connection stuff around the rail connector on the joycon.

This actually brings me to another point, I wish the joycons had higher quality parts that wouldn't get damaged from a small drop. And before someone says the perfectly common sense thing of "Well then! Don't knock it around!" hahaha, I wish I could follow that advice, but I have 4 kids.



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