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drkohler said:
sales2099 said:

Xbox holding its own in NA, that's a good start.

I'd rather say MS continues to prioritise NA above anywhere else. That is NOT a good start if you want to make inroads everywhere.

For XMas just around the corner, I'd say European numbers are low, to put it mildly.

The simple question is, of course, What has been the weekly production numbers in Sep-Nov (for both consoles)? Usually these numbers have been insane.

It will work itself out once their new studios crank out the games. But I remember the 360 PS3 gen having a certain sense of balance and equilibrium. Each console cornered different parts of the world and thus ended on a virtual tie.

First things first, win back your former #1 market. 



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mk7sx said:

21.35M.  See below - its ahead of everything (even 07 NDS which had its Black Friday in week 47). 

You can access yearly data from the top (Tools > Hardware by Date > organize/filter as needed).

mk7sx said:

NSW vs. NDS/Wii Peaks (VG Chartz Data)

Quarter 4 performance added. Note that 2007 and 2009 had Black Friday during W47 instead of W48, so NSW appears to be making a run at the record there as well, next week will be a big jump of >2-2.5M, so it can net 700-1,200K over 2007. 2008 had an additional week included in the yearly total, W53 crossing between Dec/Jan with 770K. NSW is ahead of that pace and may also be getting a 53 week count.

"its ahead of everything" Well..... This breaks any records!!! Who could have predicted it? Historic moments for Big N and the Switch! Truly unstoppable!



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Thoughts on moving PS4 and Xbox One under legacy in 2021 or keep them under current platforms in the new year?

PS5 vs Xbox Series X|S vs Switch Sales Comparison Charts Through November 21

Here we see data representing the global sales through to consumers and change in sales performance of the five current platforms (PlayStation 5, Xbox Series X|S, Nintendo Switch, PlayStation 4, and Xbox One) and two legacy platforms (Nintendo 3DS and PlayStation Vita) over comparable periods for 2017, 2018, 2019, and 2020.  Also shown is the market share for each of the consoles over the same periods.

Year to Date Sales Comparison (Same Periods Covered)

Market Share (Same Periods Covered)

2017 – (Week ending January 7 to November 25)

2018 – (Week ending January 6 to November 24)

2019 – (Week ending January 5 to November 23)

2020 – (Week ending January 4 to November 21)

Total Sales and Market Share for Each Year

"Year to date" sales for 2017, 2018, 2019, and 2020 sales are shown in series at the top of the table and then just below a comparison of 2020 versus 2019 and 2020 versus 2018 is displayed.  This provides an easy-to-view summary of all the data.

Microsoft

  • Xbox One – Down Year-on-Year 200,509 (-7.4%)
  • Xbox Series X|S – n/a

Nintendo

  • Nintendo Switch - Up Year-on-Year 8,764,037 (70.9%)
  • Nintendo 3DS – Down Year-on-Year 817,774 (-65.6%)

Sony

  • PlayStation 4 – Down Year-on-Year 2,822,285 (-26.2%)
  • PlayStation 5 – n/a


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trunkswd said:

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Thoughts on moving PS4 and Xbox One under legacy in 2021 or keep them under current platforms in the new year?

Definitely move them under legacy, because that's what they will be based on how Sony and Microsoft are already treating them now.



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RolStoppable said:
trunkswd said:

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Thoughts on moving PS4 and Xbox One under legacy in 2021 or keep them under current platforms in the new year?

Definitely move them under legacy, because that's what they will be based on how Sony and Microsoft are already treating them now.

I disagree. The 3DS and Vita should be moved to legacy, which I'm sure they will be anyway. Since Nintendo and Sony no longer have those systems in production, they are effectively dead. So it's time to close the door on them once and for all. 

However, the PS4 and Xbox One are still in production, they're still being supported, and Sony and Microsoft are still making money off them. So they still have plenty of life left in them and I don't think it would be appropriate to consider them legacy platforms just yet.



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PAOerfulone said:
RolStoppable said:

Definitely move them under legacy, because that's what they will be based on how Sony and Microsoft are already treating them now.

I disagree. The 3DS and Vita should be moved to legacy, which I'm sure they will be anyway. Since Nintendo and Sony no longer have those systems in production, they are effectively dead. So it's time to close the door on them once and for all. 

However, the PS4 and Xbox One are still in production, they're still being supported, and Sony and Microsoft are still making money off them. So they still have plenty of life left in them and I don't think it would be appropriate to consider them legacy platforms just yet.

Look above, the 3DS and Vita are under the legacy label. I didn't think it was necessary to mention that they should be removed altogether in 2021; I don't know why the Vita has still been in these articles when it sells absolutely nothing.



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RolStoppable said:
PAOerfulone said:

I disagree. The 3DS and Vita should be moved to legacy, which I'm sure they will be anyway. Since Nintendo and Sony no longer have those systems in production, they are effectively dead. So it's time to close the door on them once and for all. 

However, the PS4 and Xbox One are still in production, they're still being supported, and Sony and Microsoft are still making money off them. So they still have plenty of life left in them and I don't think it would be appropriate to consider them legacy platforms just yet.

Look above, the 3DS and Vita are under the legacy label. I didn't think it was necessary to mention that they should be removed altogether in 2021; I don't know why the Vita has still been in these articles when it sells absolutely nothing.

Ahh, I missed that. I thought it was still the "Console" and "Handheld" labels like they were in the past. Goes to show how much I've been paying attention.

But I still think it's premature to move the PSa4 and Xbox One under the "Legacy" label when they are still have plenty of gas left in the tank.



RolStoppable said:
PAOerfulone said:

I disagree. The 3DS and Vita should be moved to legacy, which I'm sure they will be anyway. Since Nintendo and Sony no longer have those systems in production, they are effectively dead. So it's time to close the door on them once and for all. 

However, the PS4 and Xbox One are still in production, they're still being supported, and Sony and Microsoft are still making money off them. So they still have plenty of life left in them and I don't think it would be appropriate to consider them legacy platforms just yet.

Look above, the 3DS and Vita are under the legacy label. I didn't think it was necessary to mention that they should be removed altogether in 2021; I don't know why the Vita has still been in these articles when it sells absolutely nothing.

At least while the 3DS is still there it needs something to compare it to. (so even though 3DS is obviously shown to have 100% of marketshare this year, it's useful to see it compared to past years before Vita died)

But yes from January 3DS should be taken off the tables & just be a footnote in the Nintendo section.



Yeah I think it's too early to put PS4 and Xbone under legacy. They were succeeded less than a month ago and probably won't be discontinued for quite some time.

sales2099 said:
drkohler said:

I'd rather say MS continues to prioritise NA above anywhere else. That is NOT a good start if you want to make inroads everywhere.

For XMas just around the corner, I'd say European numbers are low, to put it mildly.

The simple question is, of course, What has been the weekly production numbers in Sep-Nov (for both consoles)? Usually these numbers have been insane.

It will work itself out once their new studios crank out the games. But I remember the 360 PS3 gen having a certain sense of balance and equilibrium. Each console cornered different parts of the world and thus ended on a virtual tie.

First things first, win back your former #1 market. 

Winning back North America from the Switch is a very tall order and not one I personally would expect Xbox Series to be able to do.



Bet with Liquidlaser: I say PS5 and Xbox Series will sell more than 56 million combined by the end of 2023.

BTW the when I say moving PS4 and Xbox One to legacy I just mean for the weekly sales article I do and not for the front page of the site.



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