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LurkerJ on 06 November 2020
Captain_Yuri said:
Wow those Series X SSD load times are surprising compared to the ps5. Maybe Sony needs to do some additional optimization?

Where is the surprise though? PS5 loses consistently but by a hair, which is understandable since the Xbox X is somewhat stronger and that non of these games make any use of the PS5's SDD customizations. 

The only surprise here is how silent SONY's been about how good their BC tech is...



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yvanjean on 06 November 2020

More misleading marketing from Sony.... they want you to believe that everything will have near-instantaneous load times like Godfall and Astro's Playroom.
They skip the load time in UI demo for Destruction Allstars because it did not match their misinformation campaign.



yvanjean on 06 November 2020
Captain_Yuri said:
Wow those Series X SSD load times are surprising compared to the ps5. Maybe Sony needs to do some additional optimization?

We already know from the PS4 Pro and Xbox One X that most of these games will eventually get a patch that will Optimize the game to run on the next-gen consoles. 

All of these games should be able to run 4k/60fps on PS5 and Xbox Series X once patch.



Otter on 06 November 2020
chakkra said:
DonFerrari said:

Considering we have games like Spider Man, TLOU and others that load under 10s, that comparison doesn't make much sense. None of those titles are really optimized or anything for a good load time, they barely improve against their gen8 version be it on Xbox or PS.

You are correct. They are not supposedly not optimized, but that actually makes things even weirder. In brute speed, the PS5's SSD is twice as fast as the one on the Series X. The means in theory the SSD on PS5 should offer roughly double the performance in unoptimized games.
It is like, you would never expect a 2.4GB memory offering better performance than a 5.5GB one on PC, given all scenarios are the same.

Likely it has more to do with how BC is handled vs actual SSD speed. A few comments referred to CPU constraints but I don't understand enough to elaborate, but yeah I wouldn't use this as reference for how these systems will compare when loading games built for their new features



JRPGfan on 06 November 2020
Otter said:

Edit: Since there is BC comparison here, worth noting that Series X games seem to load faster

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=62&v=VrDghoYLBSw&feature=emb_logo

FFXV loads in ~14 to ~29sec with new firmware (depending on area, and if first or 2nd time loading it) (video proof).
Down from 1m10sec reported by that Nibel guy.

Nibel says MHW takes the PS5 51s.
However in the video with the firmware update (above) it only takes 16sec (video proof there).
2nd load takes 9sec.

Last edited by JRPGfan - on 06 November 2020

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JRPGfan on 06 November 2020

OP can you remove the false information posted by Nibel please.
Its factually incorrect, because hes useing a early PS5 without any patchs/firmware and not representative of how it will be for people that buy one.



JRPGfan on 06 November 2020
Otter said:
Added some load time comparisons which DF didnt go into

Load times are not correct though.
Nibel got it wrong, or is useing a early sold PS5 without the correct patches/firmware.
Its not running as the PS5 is supposed to at launch.



Azzanation on 06 November 2020

Odd the XSX has faster load times.

As for better frames, no surprise, when a system ops for Native vs Checkerboarding, better frames are a given. Native is definitely more gorgeous to look at however frames are just as important. Cannot have both on consoles, PC is where its at.



JRPGfan on 06 November 2020
JRPGfan said:
Otter said:

Edit: Since there is BC comparison here, worth noting that Series X games seem to load faster

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=62&v=VrDghoYLBSw&feature=emb_logo

FFXV loads in ~14 to ~29sec with new firmware (depending on area, and if first or 2nd time loading it) (video proof).
Down from 1m10sec reported by that Nibel guy.

Nibel says MHW takes the PS5 51s.
However in the video with the firmware update (above) it only takes 16sec (video proof there).
2nd load takes 9sec.

Azzanation said:

Odd the XSX has faster load times.

As for better frames, no surprise, when a system ops for Native vs Checkerboarding, better frames are a given. Native is definitely more gorgeous to look at however frames are just as important. Cannot have both on consoles, PC is where its at.

Its because its not useing a firmware update thats needed.

FFXV goes from 1m10sec (reported by nibel) to around 14-29sec (as shown in video, depending on area/first load ect) (with the firmware update).



Otter on 06 November 2020
JRPGfan said:
OP can you remove the false information posted by Nibel please.
Its factually incorrect, because hes useing a early PS5 without any patchs/firmware and not representative of how it will be for people that buy one.

All done, thanks for the info