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Darwinianevolution on 23 October 2020



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VAMatt on 23 October 2020
Mandalore76 said:
VAMatt said:

For sale of discussion, let's just say that Pachter is right that handheld mode is significantly more popular. In that case, the right move would be to remove the dock from the hybrid unit's package, reduce the price by $50 (or whatever the magic number is), and only sell docks separately. In fact, even if it's not correct that most people play handheld, it could still make sense to strip out the dock.

Except, he's not.  He said "maybe 20% of Switch owners play both modes", which is wildly off the mark according to Nintendo's own data:

The fact that the original Switch model consistently sells out in stores at $100 higher price point than the handheld only Lite model, proves that the hybrid features of the Switch are inherently the most desirable assets of the console.  In any other scenario, you would see the much cheaper Lite sell out first, and then people say "well, only the more expensive hybrid model is available, I guess I'm stuck buying that one."  Well, in reality, there are people out there saying, "damn, all the original models of Switch are sold out.  I guess I either have to buy one at an inflated price from a scalper or settle for the version that I can't use as a home console."

Mandalore76 said:
VAMatt said:

For sale of discussion, let's just say that Pachter is right that handheld mode is significantly more popular. In that case, the right move would be to remove the dock from the hybrid unit's package, reduce the price by $50 (or whatever the magic number is), and only sell docks separately. In fact, even if it's not correct that most people play handheld, it could still make sense to strip out the dock.

Except, he's not.  He said "maybe 20% of Switch owners play both modes", which is wildly off the mark according to Nintendo's own data:

The fact that the original Switch model consistently sells out in stores at $100 higher price point than the handheld only Lite model, proves that the hybrid features of the Switch are inherently the most desirable assets of the console.  In any other scenario, you would see the much cheaper Lite sell out first, and then people say "well, only the more expensive hybrid model is available, I guess I'm stuck buying that one."  Well, in reality, there are people out there saying, "damn, all the original models of Switch are sold out.  I guess I either have to buy one at an inflated price from a scalper or settle for the version that I can't use as a home console.

Seems like you guys missed the point of my post.  I said "for the sake of discussion" let's say he's right. 



Wman1996 on 23 October 2020

A very bad idea. Even if Switch owners are mostly playing in handheld mode, they like the freedom to have the dock and removable JoyCons. I don't even think Switch Lite has sold 10 million of the Switch's 65 million and counting units. The hybrid option is much more appealing.
Pachter has some really garbage takes. He said Series X and PS5 were probably gonna be $800 because of their specs. I mean, seriously?



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Platina on 23 October 2020

He wants the Nintendo Switch to sell how he predicted them to sell, so it all makes sense

but I guess he would still be wrong with his sales prediction regardless



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Fuchigole on 23 October 2020

Pacther should leave video game media....

But it's better if he stays. We all need a good laugh every now and then.



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curl-6 on 23 October 2020

Can someone who's good with numbers whip up how many of the Switches sold since the Lite's launch have been Lites vs hybrids?

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super_etecoon on 23 October 2020
curl-6 said:

Can someone who's good with numbers whip up how many of the Switches sold since the Lite's launch have been Lites vs hybrids?

Part of the problem with using these numbers as a metric of anything is that insofar as I can tell, Switch is sold out everywhere.  Both the Lite and the Hybrid.  People are grabbing whatever they can get their hands on, so either way this is more about how many of each that Nintendo is making. I haven't heard too much anecdotal evidence regarding Europe's stock issues, but this seems to be the case here in NA an in Japan. 



curl-6 on 23 October 2020
super_etecoon said:
curl-6 said:

Can someone who's good with numbers whip up how many of the Switches sold since the Lite's launch have been Lites vs hybrids?

Part of the problem with using these numbers as a metric of anything is that insofar as I can tell, Switch is sold out everywhere.  Both the Lite and the Hybrid.  People are grabbing whatever they can get their hands on, so either way this is more about how many of each that Nintendo is making. I haven't heard too much anecdotal evidence regarding Europe's stock issues, but this seems to be the case here in NA an in Japan. 

Good point, but I'm pretty sure that even with the shortages of the hybrid and oversupply of the Lite, more folks are picking up the base model.



d21lewis on 23 October 2020

I bought my daughter a lite only because we couldn't get a regular Switch and I'm actually contemplating selling the Lite and putting that money towards another regular Switch.



curl-6 on 23 October 2020
d21lewis said:
I bought my daughter a lite only because we couldn't get a regular Switch and I'm actually contemplating selling the Lite and putting that money towards another regular Switch.

It would not surprise me if a lot of folks who bought a Lite because the hybrid model was unavailable upgrade to the latter sometime down the road.