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Runa216 on 17 September 2020
Intrinsic said:
Runa216 said:
Too bad I already own all these games, some of them digital and physical (Like God of War).

I have so many physical and digital games on PS4 that I've yet to finish that...yeah my Ps5's gonna get SO much use. Just at launch I got Spider-Man and Demon's Souls. Yesplz

I don't own some of them. Ther are just some games I never came around to buying. Until dawn, Batman, RE7, Fallout 4 (though I feel I wouldn't even take it for free), BF, MK, Days Gone, Monster hunter, and the last guardian. I have everything else. So that's 8 games I would be getting for a +subscription I bulk purchased during a $40 for one year PS+ deal lat year. I got 5 years lol.

This is exactly how i feel MS should bedoing gamepass. You don't have to have day 1 releases there, just add good games to the list and make it be a benefit of having Live or whatever. 

I feel the same way. like 95% of gamepass games are indies or backwards compatible games or third party stuff everyone already has. I look at the list and there's literally one game on there I want but I don't have (And I only don't already have it because it was garbage at launch and I cancelled my preorder). Sea of Thieves. And even then i only want it so I can play it on PC with my brother and our group of friends. 



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V-r0cK on 17 September 2020

I'm hoping these wont go away for those that decide to buy a PS5 years down the road.



Wman1996 on 17 September 2020

If this selection of games end up free on PS5 in perpetuity, I have virtually no reason to get them on PS4 unless some of them get down to a few bucks during a sale. I already have 5 of them, and want to get God of War at some point.



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Runa216 on 17 September 2020
Wman1996 said:
If this selection of games end up free on PS5 in perpetuity, I have virtually no reason to get them on PS4 unless some of them get down to a few bucks during a sale. I already have 5 of them, and want to get God of War at some point.

I think it's sony saying 'hey, these games had their heyday, they sold well and made us a bunch of money, but they're not selling all too well anymore so let's just give em away with PS+ as an incentive to switch over.'

IT's kind of perfect. I own virtually every game on that list, but having them digitally means I won't have to use the discs...which is oddly counterproductive considering I am getting the disc version of the PS5. I like having the option, okay?



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LurkerJ on 17 September 2020

"As far as SONY is concerned, this is positive news. They get to advertise their 2020 lineup and toss in the remastered and complete editions of Spiderman, TLOU2, FF7r, Nioh 1+2, Ghost and Dreams and pretend they're part of their PS5 library. I am sure Uncharted 4, Horizon, Bloodborne, and GoW are making their way to the PS5 sooner than later as well. Don't forget, SONY has a successful record of selling a few months-old PS3 game as an immensely successful PS4 title. They can do this again with the PS5 at much a larger scale because of the similar hardware architecture.

The people who like to pretend that the fireproof PS4 exclusive 2020 line up doesn't matter since we're flipping the page on what has been an embarrassment of a generation for MS, are the same people defending Phil's cross-gen strategy. "

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9180830

Kinda predicted this to happen, using the PS4 exclusive games to leverage the PS5 as a console rich with triple AAA games from the get go is smart. It certainly makes the Xbox Launch lineup look even more anemic.

Admittedly, I thought they'd find a way to re-sell those games, but I guess releasing them as they are free of charge makes up for the lack of "remastering". 



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method114 on 17 September 2020
sales2099 said:
Why isn’t this a PS Now thing instead of PS Plus? Either way it looks like a slice of Game Pass. It’s not much but it’s a start for you guys to enjoy.

The thing I hate about Game Pass is games are removed. That's what I hate about TV streaming services as well. You don't ever really own it if it can be taken away whenever their contract ends. That why I built a media server I want to own all my media in some form digital or physical I don't care.

I'm wondering if PS Plus collection will be the same. I'm sure the first party games will stay indefinitely.



sales2099 on 17 September 2020
LurkerJ said:

"As far as SONY is concerned, this is positive news. They get to advertise their 2020 lineup and toss in the remastered and complete editions of Spiderman, TLOU2, FF7r, Nioh 1+2, Ghost and Dreams and pretend they're part of their PS5 library. I am sure Uncharted 4, Horizon, Bloodborne, and GoW are making their way to the PS5 sooner than later as well. Don't forget, SONY has a successful record of selling a few months-old PS3 game as an immensely successful PS4 title. They can do this again with the PS5 at much a larger scale because of the similar hardware architecture.

The people who like to pretend that the fireproof PS4 exclusive 2020 line up doesn't matter since we're flipping the page on what has been an embarrassment of a generation for MS, are the same people defending Phil's cross-gen strategy. "

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9180830

Kinda predicted this to happen, using the PS4 exclusive games to leverage the PS5 as a console rich with triple AAA games from the get go is smart. It certainly makes the Xbox Launch lineup look even more anemic.

Admittedly, I thought they'd find a way to re-sell those games, but I guess releasing them as they are free of charge makes up for the lack of "remastering". 

Well to most people a new gen wipes the slate clean. You guys talk about new experiences only on next gen... funny I see the tone changing now.

If we talking old games bolstering the launch of a new gen, then Xbox wins hands down with Game Pass. Combined with EA Play and day 1 games the average user will play more games then you while you spend several hundred more per year if you even attempt to play the amount of games we are.

Nevermind the BC program that puts the competition to shame. If your argument is old games bolstering the value of a new console, you can really only make the case if you talking about PS exclusives. But even then this isn’t like 360 users migrating to Ps4 due to Xbox One backlash. People that bought the PS4 remasters because it was new. Most people who own a PS4 now already played those games. 

Last edited by sales2099 - on 17 September 2020

Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

sales2099 on 18 September 2020
Hiku said:
sales2099 said:

Well to most people a new gen wipes the slate clean. You guys talk about new experiences only on next gen... funny I see the tone changing now.

If someone said that, then specify who, instead of 'you guys'.
I certainly didn't. And chances are that even the people you're referring to could be talking about wanting new games they pay $60-70 for to be developed for the new hardware as much as possible. 
These are old games we seemingly get for free, provided you have PS Plus already.

sales2099 said:

If we talking old games bolstering the launch of a new gen, then Xbox wins hands down with Game Pass. Combined with EA Play and day 1 games the average user will play more games then you while you spend several hundred more per year if you even attempt to play the amount of games we are.

It depends on what you want to spend your money on. Game Pass is an additional subscription service on top of XBL.
If there are not enough games on offer that you'd consider buying, you may also not want to pay the subscription fee.

Provided PS Plus Collection doesn't jack up the yearly cost of PS Plus, this is a free bonus for those who already planned on getting PS Plus.

sales2099 said:
Most people who own a PS4 now already played those games. 

I feel like there's probably some games there that PS4 owners haven't played. At least from my perspective I have too much to play to even get around to games like Final Fantasy 15, and I've been a huge FF fan since forever.

Actually looking at the list, I've only played 4 of them.

    I only got past the second dungeon in the original Persona 5, so I don't know if that counts, but I crossed it off anyway.

    So if I get PS5, I'd be interested in playing Resident Evil 7 for free. Why not.
    I'd say Final Fantasy XV as well, but I'll probably get the Royal Edition instead.

    Fair enough. I didn’t want to call out people that had nothing to do with this conversation but I see your point. Individuals and objective thinkers aside that seemed to be the pack mentality. 

    For GP comment, both are subs end of day. GP is just $10/month and gets you so much more.  

    Otherwise what you say has merit but between Game Pass and Backwards compatibility, the argument of older games bolstering the new generation goes to Xbox hands down. This collection is a nice touch and full of value in itself. Not denying that. 



    Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

     

    Runa216 on 18 September 2020
    Hiku said:
    sales2099 said:

    Well to most people a new gen wipes the slate clean. You guys talk about new experiences only on next gen... funny I see the tone changing now.

    If someone said that, then specify who, instead of 'you guys'.
    I certainly didn't. And chances are that even the people you're referring to could be talking about wanting new games they pay $60-70 for to be developed for the new hardware as much as possible. 
    These are old games we seemingly get for free, provided you have PS Plus already.

    sales2099 said:

    If we talking old games bolstering the launch of a new gen, then Xbox wins hands down with Game Pass. Combined with EA Play and day 1 games the average user will play more games then you while you spend several hundred more per year if you even     attempt to play the amount of games we are.

    It depends on what you want to spend your money on. Game Pass is an additional subscription service on top of XBL.
    If there are not enough games on offer that you'd consider buying, you may also not want to pay the subscription fee.

    Provided PS Plus Collection doesn't jack up the yearly cost of PS Plus, this is a free bonus for those who already planned on getting PS Plus.

    sales2099 said:
    Most people who own a PS4 now already played those games. 

    I feel like there's probably some games there that PS4 owners haven't played. At least from my perspective I have too much to play to even get around to games like Final Fantasy 15, and I've been a huge FF fan since forever.

    Actually looking at the list, I've only played 4 of them.

    • Batman: Arkham Knight
    • Battlefield 1
    • Bloodborne
    • Days Gone
    • Detroit: Become Human
    • Fallout 4
    • Final Fantasy XV
    • God of War
    • Infamous Second Son
    • Monster Hunter World
    • Mortal Kombat X
    • Persona 5
    • Ratchet and Clank
    • Resident Evil 7: Biohazard
    • The Last Guardian
    • The Last of Us Remastered
    • Uncharted 4: A Thief's End
    • Until Dawn

    I only got past the second dungeon in the original Persona 5, so I don't know if that counts, but I crossed it off anyway.

    So if I get PS5, I'd be interested in playing Resident Evil 7 for free. Why not.
    I'd say Final Fantasy XV as well, but I'll probably get the Royal Edition instead.

    I HIGHLY recommend Bloodborne and Ratchet & Clank. Those games are two of my all-time faves. Not for everyone so there's a good chance you'll hate Bloodborne, but if you like it you'll most likely love it. In my experience, there's not a lot of middle ground between those extremes. 



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    DonFerrari on 18 September 2020
    Hiku said:
    Mr_No said:

    While it's still too early to tell, I'm assuming this will be the same as the monthly PS Plus games we're having now on PS4. However, the fine print will have to be read to see if these are permanent.

    But it is a collection. What's the point of taking those games away after a certain time if it's a collection? But it's still early and more details are needed on this.

    I added this to the OP now, but according to this note from the Playstation blog, it sounds like it won't replace the previous PS Plus benefits. But be an 'added benefit to the existing PS4 benefits' of the PS Plus subscription.

    I don`t think you need to have PS4 to get the benefit though. It seems both an incentive to upgrade and to switch over. Similar to GP having a lot of BC games on it and a good price.



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