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To me anyway the Series X simple form factor will allow cheaper manufacturing where as PS5 goes out of its way to be oddly shaped. And due to said simplicity Series X is naturally better at venting heat where as PS5 will not and the components in each will reflect in price as well. Plus in general I think the Xbox hardware team is on a whole other level then Sony’s. Powerful yet efficient and the team knew exactly what to do with what objectives they were given.

Edit: plus those rumors where Sony was having a hard time getting costs low. And how the main guy said they were going for value over price. 

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sales2099 said:
To me anyway the Series X simple form factor will allow cheaper manufacturing where as PS5 goes out of its way to be oddly shaped. And due to said simplicity Series X is naturally better at venting heat where as PS5 will not and the components in each will reflect in price as well. Plus in general I think the Xbox hardware team is on a whole other level then Sony’s. Powerful yet efficient and the team knew exactly what to do with what objectives they were given.

RROD and X1 bigger than PS4 while still having external power brick and lower power says otherwise.

Having a lot of curves won`t really impact price much, it is just injected plastic.



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DonFerrari said:
sales2099 said:
To me anyway the Series X simple form factor will allow cheaper manufacturing where as PS5 goes out of its way to be oddly shaped. And due to said simplicity Series X is naturally better at venting heat where as PS5 will not and the components in each will reflect in price as well. Plus in general I think the Xbox hardware team is on a whole other level then Sony’s. Powerful yet efficient and the team knew exactly what to do with what objectives they were given.

RROD and X1 bigger than PS4 while still having external power brick and lower power says otherwise.

Having a lot of curves won`t really impact price much, it is just injected plastic.

Xbox One X whisper quiet and being a beast compared to the PS4/Pro fan being the closest thing you guys will have to Flight Simulator says otherwise ;)



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Random_Matt said:
Fei-Hung said:

Any idea what the cost of dram and nand are? 

Couldn't say, fluctuates a lot considering the demand and pandemic. But Bloomberg say $450, and Zhuge says XSX is between $460-$520. So yeah, PS5 will not be $499, I say $449 and potentially $399. The digital could then go $299/$349, Sony could potentially make both Xboxes completely redundant.

How stupid do you think Sony is as a company. At $399 for the all digital edition PS5, Sony will not be able to keep up to demand. Why would they hurt their bottom line when at least for this holiday season they will sell out every unit produce. 

The $399 price point is only possible if Sony is taking a loss on every unit sold. I think Sony will eventually go with $450/$499 for PS5-D/PS5. Based on current demand and popularity there simply no need to cut costs. 

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sales2099 said:

To me anyway the Series X simple form factor will allow cheaper manufacturing where as PS5 goes out of its way to be oddly shaped. And due to said simplicity Series X is naturally better at venting heat where as PS5 will not and the components in each will reflect in price as well. Plus in general I think the Xbox hardware team is on a whole other level then Sony’s. Powerful yet efficient and the team knew exactly what to do with what objectives they were given.

Edit: plus those rumors where Sony was having a hard time getting costs low. And how the main guy said they were going for value over price. 

Have you put much thought into that or is it just a throwaway comment based on preference?

The way I look at it the result of the design decisions made will be reflected in the price these systems launch for (including room for future cuts) and the results they manage to achieve with software. It's a careful balancing act. I'm certainly not willing to definitively choose one strategy/design over the other yet.



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Bofferbrauer2 said:

The SSD is the main culprit. The size is actually the same between the two (Sony calculates in Gibibytes while Microsoft used Gigabytes), but Microsoft could use cheaper chips and SSD controllers than Sony for their respective targets. Potentially by a lot considering parts get ordered way in advance. Plus Sony is using more smaller chips, which will definitely cost more than what Microsoft is using.

They are not the same.

Xbox Series X = 1 Terabyte = 1000 Gigabyte = 931 Gibibyte

PS5 = 0.825 Terabyte = 825 Gigabyte = 768 Gibibyte

Xbox Series S = 0.5 Terabyte = 500 Gigabyte = 466 Gibibyte



sales2099 said:

Xbox One X whisper quiet and being a beast compared to the PS4/Pro fan being the closest thing you guys will have to Flight Simulator says otherwise ;)

That has more to do with spending more on cooling and processing than hardware design talent.



It's pretty obvious that the PS5 is cheaper to produce. I'd imagine the difference is at least $50. I know the double motherboard design MS went with can't be cheap.

Really, the only ones I have seen suggest it is more expensive are fans of the other console. Mainly wishful thinking, because if the PS5 DE is $399 and the disk version is $449, Series X doesn't have a prayer.



yvanjean said:
Random_Matt said:

Couldn't say, fluctuates a lot considering the demand and pandemic. But Bloomberg say $450, and Zhuge says XSX is between $460-$520. So yeah, PS5 will not be $499, I say $449 and potentially $399. The digital could then go $299/$349, Sony could potentially make both Xboxes completely redundant.

How stupid do you think Sony is as a company. At $399 for the all digital edition PS5, Sony will not be able to keep up to demand. Why would they hurt their bottom line when at least for this holiday season they will sell out every unit produce. 

The $399 price point is only possible if Sony is taking a loss on every unit sold. I think Sony will eventually go with $450/$499 for PS5-D/PS5. Based on current demand and popularity there simply no need to cut costs. 

Not sure how this helps the thread. Consoles generally launch at a loss with the exception on Nintendo consoles probably. What grounds are there to think sony won't be able to keep up demand or will be making such a heavy loss at $399 that they shouldn't go down the route?!

We won't know what demand is until we start seeing preorders or start seeing narrative changes that heavily favour one or the other. So far it's been back and forward, especially after the series S price reveal along with gamepass ultimate with EA. 



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Put simply, there is no reason to think the PS5 is more expensive to make.
If anything it's definitely cheaper.
Granted, not by a big margin anyway.