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I foresee Epic having a very difficult time in court on this one. Especially against Google since they previously sold this game for Android outside of Google Play, and then decided to bring it into Google Play.

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RolStoppable said:
Teeqoz said:

I'm gonna have to repeat myself alot of times, but here goes: Epic knows they are breaching Apples ToS. They also did this knowing this would happen, and were prepared to go to court. They will obviously not argue that they are not breaching Apples ToS - they will argue that Apples ToS are illegal. They are also obviously aware of the EU's anti-trust investigation into Apple's practices, and they will certainly help as much as they can with info, but that case is the EU vs Apple, not EU + other companies vs Apple.

To be clear, I don't know where this lawsuit will go, but it's not as simple as "Epic breached Apple's ToS, they are legally in the wrong".

Of course it's about money. You of all people should know and shouldn't really care. It IS about money for Epic, but if Apple was forced to allow competing storefronts on iOS, it would still be good for consumers

Doesn't look like a coherent strategy to go for "Apple's ToS is illegal" when Epic treated Google the exact same way despite Android allowing competing storefronts to exist.

One of the largest antitrust cases of the 21st century, which nearly saw Microsoft split into two separate companies centered around Microsoft making it too difficult and cumbersome to download and/or use another internet browser. Abusing the power of defaults can certainly be grounds for a lawsuit, even if users aren't actually forced to use that default. Of course, Google has a better argument than Apple in that other options at least exist, but that doesn't absolve them from anti-competetive behaviour.

forest-spirit said:

Pretty good take I would say, especially in regards to the dumb-as-fudge '1984' reference.

Brilliant take... I mean, I'm biased because it's basically the same conclusion as my post, though FAR more coherent and less anti-capitalist! =P

To be fair to Jim, he does go into anti-capitalism, just doesn't dive into the mechanics that explain why these corporations are driven by greed - just acknowledges the axiom that they ARE greedy to absolute ends.

The main point is that Epic is sleazy for mobilizing a campaign to get naive gamers to do battle against Apple for them so that one mega rich corporation can get a bit more money than another mega rich corporation, and it has nothing to do with the benefit for consumers because capitalism maintains that corporations will try as hard as they can to get as much money out of the consumer base as they can. He notes how they already had their "Nine-teen-eighty-Fortnight" campaign ready to go moments after Apple's response - indicating that they knew what the result would be and pre-planned it in a way to make them (Epic) look like the victim in order to manipulate its players into protesting on their behalf.

Don't be duped and manipulated by Epic.

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Apple removed Fortnite from the App Store and has informed Epic that on Friday, August 28 Apple will terminate all their developer accounts and cut Epic off from iOS and Mac development tools.

Wow Apple going full fuck you mode


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This is Epics faceturn, loving it!! this only proves they were spot on with their previous diss

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Captain_Yuri said:

Apple removed Fortnite from the App Store and has informed Epic that on Friday, August 28 Apple will terminate all their developer accounts and cut Epic off from iOS and Mac development tools.

Wow Apple going full fuck you mode

This is entertaining. Epic certainly didn't expect that.

And since court cases take a long time, Epic's Unreal business will suffer for a long time.

Apple's move reminds me of Activision vs. Silicon Knights, although there's no doubt that Epic will survive.

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