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shikamaru317 said:

I'm a conservative Christian, so:

Moral

  • Birth control (except for the morning after pill)
  • Buying and wearing clothing made of animal fur
  • The death penalty

Gray Area

  • Gambling (as long as you do so responsibly it is probably ok, only betting expendable income, not betting until you are in debt)
  • Drinking alcohol (as long as you do so responsibly it is ok, drinking in small quantities, not driving drunk, not drinking at all if you know you're a violent drunk)
  • Medical testing on animals (depends on the type of testing really, some kinds would be morally questionable)
  • Sex between an unmarried man and woman
  • Smoking marijuana
  • Divorce
  • Gay or lesbian relations
  • Having a baby outside marriage
  • Sex between teenagers
  • Pornography
  • Doctor-assisted suicide

Immoral

  • Stem cell research using human embryos
  • Abortion
  • Cloning animals
  • Polygamy
  • Suicide
  • Cloning humans
  • Married men and women having an affair

Why is smoking weed immoral from a Christian perspective? Is that something actually grounded in what you think god wants, or is it just something the community feels is wrong? Not challenging your beliefs, just honestly curious why, assuming Christianity was true, that would preclude smoking marijuana.



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JWeinCom said:

Is it immoral to deceive someone?

Depends on the deception really. Only if it results in real harm, basically.



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JWeinCom said:
shikamaru317 said:

Why is smoking weed immoral from a Christian perspective? Is that something actually grounded in what you think god wants, or is it just something the community feels is wrong? Not challenging your beliefs, just honestly curious why, assuming Christianity was true, that would preclude smoking marijuana.

That is why I put it in my gray area section. Smoking is never explicitly mentioned in the bible, but generally speaking it would fall under this verse:

"If anyone destroys God's temple, God will destroy him. For God's temple is holy, and you are that temple." 

Just like tobacco smoke, cannabis can have many adverse effects on your health, and therefore would be considered as treating your own body poorly, which is a sin.



curl-6 said:
JWeinCom said:

Is it immoral to deceive someone?

Depends on the deception really. Only if it results in real harm, basically.

Well, then in this case. If one person promises another that they will only have sex with them, and then has sex with someone else, then they at least know that their action will potentially cause great harm. So would that be immoral? 

Or... looking at it another way... Think of it as a contract. If you tell someone that you'll forfeit the right to have sex outside of a relationship, and in exchange they'll do the same, then isn't that harmful? You've made them sacrifice something they may have enjoyed doing for nothing.

shikamaru317 said:
JWeinCom said:

Why is smoking weed immoral from a Christian perspective? Is that something actually grounded in what you think god wants, or is it just something the community feels is wrong? Not challenging your beliefs, just honestly curious why, assuming Christianity was true, that would preclude smoking marijuana.

That is why I put it in my gray area section. Smoking is never explicitly mentioned in the bible, but generally speaking it would fall under this verse:

"If anyone destroys God's temple, God will destroy him. For God's temple is holy, and you are that temple." 

Just like tobacco smoke, cannabis can have many adverse effects on your health, and therefore would be considered as treating your own body poorly, which is a sin.

Yeah, but the bible is definitely very pro-wine (not like in excess but it definitely endorses drinking at least on occasion). So, I feel like if wine would be ok, weed should be too.



JWeinCom said:
curl-6 said:

Depends on the deception really. Only if it results in real harm, basically.

Well, then in this case. If one person promises another that they will only have sex with them, and then has sex with someone else, then they at least know that their action will potentially cause great harm. So would that be immoral? 

Or... looking at it another way... Think of it as a contract. If you tell someone that you'll forfeit the right to have sex outside of a relationship, and in exchange they'll do the same, then isn't that harmful? You've made them sacrifice something they may have enjoyed doing for nothing.

I guess so, but relatively speaking it's very low level harm compared to something like the death penalty, so while I don't personally approve, I don't consider it immoral to the point of "this should be prohibited".



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curl-6 said:
JWeinCom said:

Well, then in this case. If one person promises another that they will only have sex with them, and then has sex with someone else, then they at least know that their action will potentially cause great harm. So would that be immoral? 

Or... looking at it another way... Think of it as a contract. If you tell someone that you'll forfeit the right to have sex outside of a relationship, and in exchange they'll do the same, then isn't that harmful? You've made them sacrifice something they may have enjoyed doing for nothing.

I guess so, but relatively speaking it's very low level harm compared to something like the death penalty, so while I don't personally approve, I don't consider it immoral to the point of "this should be prohibited".

I don't think that everything that is morally unacceptable should necessarily be prohibited. I also disagree on the level of harm it causes.



JWeinCom said:
curl-6 said:

I guess so, but relatively speaking it's very low level harm compared to something like the death penalty, so while I don't personally approve, I don't consider it immoral to the point of "this should be prohibited".

I don't think that everything that is morally unacceptable should necessarily be prohibited. I also disagree on the level of harm it causes.

I mean I'd never cheat myself and I'd disapprove of others doing so, but at the end of the day, as far as moral issues go I just don't think it's a big deal relatively speaking, not compared to things that can cause death, serious abuse, lack of rights, or systemic oppression.



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curl-6 said:
JWeinCom said:

I don't think that everything that is morally unacceptable should necessarily be prohibited. I also disagree on the level of harm it causes.

I mean I'd never cheat myself and I'd disapprove of others doing so, but at the end of the day, as far as moral issues go I just don't think it's a big deal relatively speaking, not compared to things that can cause death, serious abuse, lack of rights, or systemic oppression.

Not saying it's the worst thing in the world, but I think it's definitely bad enough to be deemed immoral.



OhNoYouDont said:

You don't appear to understand that the term baby has a specific meaning. A fetus is not a baby. Your propaganda is proof of your duplicitous and mendacious nature which I find entirely immoral. 

If you're so opposed to lying, why are you doing it?

Posting the way you do, to me it's immoral.

A baby, to me, is whatever I think it is.



shikamaru317 said:
JWeinCom said:

Why is smoking weed immoral from a Christian perspective? Is that something actually grounded in what you think god wants, or is it just something the community feels is wrong? Not challenging your beliefs, just honestly curious why, assuming Christianity was true, that would preclude smoking marijuana.

That is why I put it in my gray area section. Smoking is never explicitly mentioned in the bible, but generally speaking it would fall under this verse:

"If anyone destroys God's temple, God will destroy him. For God's temple is holy, and you are that temple." 

Just like tobacco smoke, cannabis can have many adverse effects on your health, and therefore would be considered as treating your own body poorly, which is a sin.

Maybe a sin for certain religions but not for Rastafarians.  Just because something is a sin to you doesn't mean it is for other people. 

So you think God put cannabis on earth to see if people would sin and enjoy it?  Watch out for the devil's weed.... 

Don't need to respond to me because don't give a shit

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