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padib said:

I'm not an opponent of abortion, and I'm not advocating against pro-choice. I'm also not comparing it to the holocaust. I'm not preaching. I also never got anybody pregnant.

I also mentioned in my first post that I understand rare cases where the situation is sensitive for a woman and the question needs to be asked.

I was, like I said since the beginning, speaking my mind about morality, not about politics, and about how I feel about abortion. I think, in the grand majority of cases, it's related to irresponsible behaviour and causes lethal harm to a creature that is, in the end, human.

Anyway, I'm used to having my point of view on this twisted in so many ways. Maybe since you made this thread, take this chance to try and look at it from my actual point of view.

And, if we want to start using pity, well I wouldn't be born if my grandparents had followed advice of well-meaning people and aborted, which is a sad thought for me.

We're absolutely going to disagree about the bolded math there. Also, I was not exactly the first here to "use pity" in one sense or another vis-a-vis this issue. You're alive today because an abortion didn't happen. I was raped at a young age. We're both human. I totally get why you feel the way you do and don't know what else to tell you. To that end, I believe we've realistically reached the end of our ability to make progress in our debate on this particular issue.