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ArchangelMadzz on 06 August 2020

Birth control: 90%
Drinking alcohol: 86%
Divorce: 77%
Sex between an unmarried man and woman: 72%
Gambling: 71%
Smoking marijuana: 70%
Gay or lesbian relations: 66%
Having a baby outside marriage: 66%
Stem cell research using human embryos: 66%
Medical testing on animals: 56%
Buying and wearing clothing made of animal fur: 54%
The death penalty: 54%
Doctor-assisted suicide: 51%
Abortion: 44%
Sex between teenagers: 38%
Pornography: 36% ...Sorry VGC.
Cloning animals: 34%
Polygamy: 20%
Suicide: 18% (Not a moral issue, mental health issue)
Cloning humans: 12%
Married men and women having an affair: 9%


I've bolded the 3 I find morally wrong.

Idea of cloning humans doesn't bother me, assuming consent of course. 



There's only 2 races: White and 'Political Agenda'
2 Genders: Male and 'Political Agenda'
2 Hairstyles for female characters: Long and 'Political Agenda'
2 Sexualities: Straight and 'Political Agenda'

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IcaroRibeiro on 06 August 2020
Ka-pi96 said:
IcaroRibeiro said:
Morally unacceptable

- Drinking Alcohol: You're risking people around you to suffer injuries and even die, your asswhole

huh? There hasn't been a single time that I've drunk alcohol that it's risked anybody near me being injured or dying. I mean, why would it?

Drinking and driving, sure. That's morally unacceptable. But just drinking?

I misread it as drinking and driving, my bad



sethnintendo on 06 August 2020

Wtf why is porn so low? Fucking hypocrites



sethnintendo on 06 August 2020
Stellar_Fungk said:
For me, moraly unacceptable:

Pride
Greed
Wrath
Envy
Lust
Gluttony
Sloth

Yea I knew couldn't be from USA unless you were Amish and stumbled onto the internet.



sethnintendo on 06 August 2020
Ka-pi96 said:
sethnintendo said:
Wtf why is porn so low? Fucking hypocrites

The same reason sex between teenagers and abortion are so low... religion.

Ah see my group of friends is pretty open/given that it happens. There isn't shame of jerking off to porn.  Now if that's all you did 24/7 I can see that as problem but that goes for almost anything.  



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ArchangelMadzz on 06 August 2020
Ka-pi96 said:
ArchangelMadzz said:

Idea of cloning humans doesn't bother me, assuming consent of course.

Wouldn't part of the issue be that you can't actually get consent though?

I mean, there would be 2 humans involved, and only one of them would actually be able to consent since the other wouldn't exist yet. So it's impossible to get consent from both parties.

Isn't the real ethical issue from the perspective of the cloned person too? Just imagine how psychologically damaging it would be to discover you were grown in a lab as a clone of somebody else.

I mean, you aren't ever asked if you want to be born. Whether by sex, test tube or cloning. 

I'm sure children that are the product of rape have similar feelings. But if I was a clone I wouldn't feel happy about it, but I wouldn't kill myself or wish I wasn't born. 



There's only 2 races: White and 'Political Agenda'
2 Genders: Male and 'Political Agenda'
2 Hairstyles for female characters: Long and 'Political Agenda'
2 Sexualities: Straight and 'Political Agenda'

setsunatenshi on 06 August 2020

only against death penalty for moral reasons, everything else, play on



JWeinCom on 06 August 2020
IcaroRibeiro said:

What does birth control means? State controlling birth rate or personal birth control methods like pills and condoms? Well, for me:

Shouldn't even be subject of moral debate:

- Birth Control

- Drinking Alcohol
- Divorce
- Sex between an unmarried man and woman
- Gay or lesbian relations
- Having a baby outside marriage
- Polygamy (if it's consensual)
- Suicide: I don't see this as a matter of moral debate, unless we really looking for it from a religious standpoint

Morally acceptable

- Gambling
- Stem cell research using human embryos
- Abortion
- Sex between teenagers (if they are 14 or over, but it's a loose definition)
- Pornography
- Cloning animals


Morally debatable

- Smoking marijuana: Smoking itself is alright, but most of weed here comes from illegal traffic that kills thousands of poor youth a year only for some upper middle class guys have some fun, this is so fucked up. I would never buy illegal marijuana knowing how negatively it impacts society
- Medical testing on animals: It's cruel and shouldn't happen, but well... we need tests right?
- The death penalty: I'm not pro death penalty myself, but I don't find it at all imoral for people who just can't live in society. The only problem is, death penalty is definitive, while life imprisonment is not. So better go for life imprisonment even if it's much more expensive
- Doctor-assisted suicide: I can't pick a side here
- Cloning humans: Don't know enough

Morally unacceptable

- Buying and wearing clothing made of animal fur: Synthetic fabric is much cheaper and is higher quality, absolutely no reason for this kind of animal exploitation
- Married men and women having an affair: Monogamous relationship is a social contract, having a case is a betrayal of this mutual agreement. It may not be a crime, but it is not moral

If the problem with weed is the black market, then isn't illegalizing it the immoral thing? Also, you can grow your own. And mine is sourced from a dispensary that sells it legally to a second person who sells it to me, so I don't think that's killing anyone.



IcaroRibeiro on 06 August 2020
JWeinCom said:

If the problem with weed is the black market, then isn't illegalizing it the immoral thing? 

Exactly



AngryLittleAlchemist on 06 August 2020
Ka-pi96 said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:
What is wrong with suicide

If you have people that are close to you and care about you... a lot!

Speaking from personal experience.

I won't go further into this since you've said that you're speaking from personal experience and I don't want to make suicide sound like something tempting or anything, it isn't, but at the same time I don't think there's almost any logical argument (except for very few examples) for why suicide is immoral just because it would bother others around you. That doesn't make it inherently bad.