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Forums - Nintendo Discussion - WORSE Case Scenario: Switch is Still Going to Past 110mil, So why you think Under 130mil?

 

NSW will sell roughly

100mil 9 17.65%
 
110mil 10 19.61%
 
120mil 8 15.69%
 
130mil 9 17.65%
 
140mil 6 11.76%
 
150mil 6 11.76%
 
160mil 3 5.88%
 
Total:51

The Switch had two massive boosts in it's first year, Launch and Holiday the ps4 lost it's first Holiday as it was apart of it's launch window, so it's pointless to line these consoles up month to month due to the above, prices and the affect of Covid with it's massive curve ball.

Current market trends could mean anything, is the boost to the switch just sales being push forward or is it hitting a massive new market or how much either way? This is all without considering market saturation point which is a massive unknown and when it hits it hits hard. The big challenge for the Switch is the rate of sales past 85 Million which historically has been a cliff point.

Claiming 110 million + sales is a given when historically 85-105 million is a massive barrier is a pretty heavy claim. When a console is still so far from that point.



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Random_Matt said:
Gamers who cannot sleep at night clinging to the idea of sales, sales and sales. Strange behaviour, seriously strange.

I know... it's like yesterday I went to an NFL forum and all they were talking about was football.  Seriously strange.

tbone51 said:
JWeinCom said:
There is simply no guarantee that Switch will follow a similar curve to the PS4.

The main thing is first party support. With the Switch and DS, they continued to perform really well until Nintendo's first party support began to dry up. Once that happened, they coasted for a little while on the strength of evergreen titles before dropping sharply.

Doesn't seem like Nintendo is going to slow down Switch support in the next couple of years, but with Nintendo's future lineup a giant ?, it's hard to make a solid prediction for the Switch. BOTW2 is the only huge title we know about (with Bayonetta 3, New Snap, and Prime 3 being relatively big franchises that have the potential to become bigger on Switch). If you have faith that Nintendo has a good lineup lying in wait, then 110m is a very safe bet, but if they don't, it may limp past 100m.

There are plenty of things to consider here though, these evergreens are unlike any other Nintendo games seen before. They won’t drop, going by shipments and sell thru of japan it does seem like it’ll go even past when NSW stop selling.

but that’s minor talk here, as for games there are plenty that are mid sizes to also being huge. 1 game that could be half of what AC is is Tomodachi Collection. The rumored Mario 3D collection game as well as many possibilities for Zelda anniversary next year. 100mil is practically guaranteed if NSW peaks this year. You can literally cut in half YoY after this one (22mil-24mil) and it’s hitting 100mil, 110mil is the worse case and that’s if everything goes wrong ;P

If it had a 25% drop next year, and 33% the next, and a 50% the next (which would not be inconsistent with other sales, I had the numbers up but my compute ate the post) it'd limp to about 103-106 million.  So that's around the baseline.

I would definitely guess that it should exceed that, if for no other reason than Nintendo not having to support an extra system this time around (if Nintendo didn't launch the 3DS in 2011, I can imagine the Wii receiving more support in its later years), so 110 million seems like a reasonable baseline.

But, this is Nintendo we're talking about. A company that could seemingly do no wrong with the DS and the Wii, then managed to do nearly everything wrong with the Wii U. I would not be shocked to see the Switch hit 150 million.  At the same time I wouldn't be shocked if it managed to fall short of 100. 



Slownenberg said:

So fiscal year up to March was like 55 million right? 

55.77 to be exact



FY1 2.74mil - 2.74 million
FY2 15.05mil - 17.79 million
FY3 16.95mil - 34.74 million
FY4 21.03mil - 55.77 million

FY5 (03/21) 25.00mil - 80.77 million
FY6 (03/22) 21.00 million - 101.77 million (Breath of the Wild 2 + Price cut: $150 - Switch Lite; $250 Hybrid)
FY7 (03/23) 17.00mil - 118.77 million (Hardware revision + Pokémon Gen 9)
FY8 (03/24) 12.00mil - 130.77 million (Switch 2 releases)
FY9 (03/25) 4.00mil - 134.77 million
FY10 (03/26) 1.50mil - 136.27 million (Hardware discontinued)
FY11 and beyond - 0.30mil - 136.57 million

Final - 136.57 million units



I mean technically worst case scenario the human race is wiped out tomorrow and it doesn't reach 60m. But 100m is basically a certainty, and the chance of it not hitting 110m is low.

But I think it is more likely it won't reach 130m than will reach it.



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vonny said:
The Switch had two massive boosts in it's first year, Launch and Holiday the ps4 lost it's first Holiday as it was apart of it's launch window, so it's pointless to line these consoles up month to month due to the above, prices and the affect of Covid with it's massive curve ball.

Current market trends could mean anything, is the boost to the switch just sales being push forward or is it hitting a massive new market or how much either way? This is all without considering market saturation point which is a massive unknown and when it hits it hits hard. The big challenge for the Switch is the rate of sales past 85 Million which historically has been a cliff point.

Claiming 110 million + sales is a given when historically 85-105 million is a massive barrier is a pretty heavy claim. When a console is still so far from that point.

Your basing your post on irreverent data. If you think those low numbers are going to happen, pls show us what you think that NSW will sell in FY5/FY6/FY7/FY8. I like to see your breakdown of how it can possibly be 85mil-99mil

PAOerfulone said:
FY1 2.74mil - 2.74 million
FY2 15.05mil - 17.79 million
FY3 16.95mil - 34.74 million
FY4 21.03mil - 55.77 million

FY5 (03/21) 25.00mil - 80.77 million
FY6 (03/22) 21.00 million - 101.77 million (Breath of the Wild 2 + Price cut: $150 - Switch Lite; $250 Hybrid)
FY7 (03/23) 17.00mil - 118.77 million (Hardware revision + Pokémon Gen 9)
FY8 (03/24) 12.00mil - 130.77 million (Switch 2 releases)
FY9 (03/25) 4.00mil - 134.77 million
FY10 (03/26) 1.50mil - 136.27 million (Hardware discontinued)
FY11 and beyond - 0.30mil - 136.57 million

Final - 136.57 million units

No, people told me under 100mil!!!



I'll be honest here, after what happened to Wii U, I thought it would be impossible for the new console to reach 100 million. However, seeing those strong sales, I'm pretty sure the Switch can do it. But I still have no idea how far it can go.



PAOerfulone said:
FY1 2.74mil - 2.74 million
FY2 15.05mil - 17.79 million
FY3 16.95mil - 34.74 million
FY4 21.03mil - 55.77 million

FY5 (03/21) 25.00mil - 80.77 million
FY6 (03/22) 21.00 million - 101.77 million (Breath of the Wild 2 + Price cut: $150 - Switch Lite; $250 Hybrid)
FY7 (03/23) 17.00mil - 118.77 million (Hardware revision + Pokémon Gen 9)
FY8 (03/24) 12.00mil - 130.77 million (Switch 2 releases)
FY9 (03/25) 4.00mil - 134.77 million
FY10 (03/26) 1.50mil - 136.27 million (Hardware discontinued)
FY11 and beyond - 0.30mil - 136.57 million

Final - 136.57 million units

You honestly think its 4 more years or longer, until Switch gets replaced by a Switch 2?
When nintendo themselves have already talked about a new Switch?

Also damn.... predicting sales 7years further out.
That far out you have very little reliablity because of how much things can change
(ei. things you predict get really unaccurate with predictions, when you go more than year or two).

Still admittedly that does end up with a total of 136m.

How many systems does nintendo have thats still made and sold new, 11 years out?

Last edited by JRPGfan - on 16 July 2020

160 million.



JRPGfan said:
PAOerfulone said:
FY1 2.74mil - 2.74 million
FY2 15.05mil - 17.79 million
FY3 16.95mil - 34.74 million
FY4 21.03mil - 55.77 million

FY5 (03/21) 25.00mil - 80.77 million
FY6 (03/22) 21.00 million - 101.77 million (Breath of the Wild 2 + Price cut: $150 - Switch Lite; $250 Hybrid)
FY7 (03/23) 17.00mil - 118.77 million (Hardware revision + Pokémon Gen 9)
FY8 (03/24) 12.00mil - 130.77 million (Switch 2 releases)
FY9 (03/25) 4.00mil - 134.77 million
FY10 (03/26) 1.50mil - 136.27 million (Hardware discontinued)
FY11 and beyond - 0.30mil - 136.57 million

Final - 136.57 million units

You honestly think its 4 more years or longer, until Switch gets replaced by a Switch 2?
When nintendo themselves have already talked about a new Switch?

Also damn.... predicting sales 7years further out.
That far out you have very little reliablity because of how much things can change
(ei. things you predict get really unaccurate with predictions, when you go more than year or two).

Still admittedly that does end up with a total of 136m.

How many systems does nintendo have thats still made and sold new, 11 years out?

Tbf he put FY9-11 as 5.8mil. 3DS still sold a few million units after NSW came out (2017-2019)

that said let’s see your breakdown for FY5/FY6/FY7/FY8