Successful games.

1. [NSW] Animal Crossing: New Horizons (Nintendo, 03/20/20) – 53,506 (5,058,226)
2. [NSW] Clubhouse Games: 51 Worldwide Classics (Nintendo, 06/05/20) – 23,591 (195,211)
3. [NSW] Ring Fit Adventure (Nintendo, 10/18/19) – 12,285 (1,092,799)
4. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (Nintendo, 04/28/17) – 10,037 (3,015,080)
5. [PS4] The Last of Us Part II (SIE, 06/19/20) – 9,279 (213,968)
6. [NSW] Splatoon 2 (Bundle Version Included) (Nintendo, 07/21/17) – 8,114 (3,478,749)
7. [NSW] Pokemon Sword / Shield (The Pokemon Company, 11/15/19) – 8,111 (3,647,104)
8. [NSW] Super Smash Bros. Ultimate (Nintendo, 12/07/18) – 7,111 (3,744,880)
9. [NSW] Catherine: Full Body (Atlus, 07/02/20) – 6,917 (New)
10. [NSW] Minecraft: Nintendo Switch Edition (Bundle Version Included) (Microsoft, 06/21/18) – 6,104 (1,432,705)
11. [NSW] Super Mario Party (Nintendo, 10/05/18) – 4,903 (1,481,128)
12. [NSW] Brigandine: The Legend of Runersia (Happinet, 06/25/20) – 4,176 (19,418)
13. [PS4] The Last of Us Remastered (PlayStation Hits) (SIE, 07/26/18) – 3,735 (104,335)
14. [PS4] Marvel’s Iron Man VR (SIE, 07/03/20) – 3,358 (New)
15. [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (Limited Edition Included) (Nintendo, 03/03/17) – 3,223 (1,606,663)
16. [PS4] Remnant: From the Ashes (DMM Games, 06/25/20) – 2,905 (22,149)
17. [NSW] Xenoblade Chronicles: Definitive Edition (Nintendo, 05/29/20) – 2,742 (126,662)
18. [NSW] Dr. Kawashima’s Brain Training for Nintendo Switch (Nintendo, 12/27/19) – 2,674 (256,409)
19. [NSW] Super Mario Maker 2 (Nintendo, 06/28/19) – 2,547 (933,420)
20. [NSW] Human Fall Flat (Teyon Japan, 06/25/20) – 2,427 (7,668)
21. [NSW] New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe (01/11/19) – 2,387 (859,560)
22. [NSW]Luigi’s Mansion 3(Nintendo, 10/31/19) – 2,224 (660,461)
23. [NSW] Dragon Quest XI S: Echoes of an Elusive Age – Definitive Edition (Limited Edition Included) (Square Enix, 09/27/19) – 2,035 (532,314)
24. [NSW] Ace Angler: Nintendo Switch Version (Bandai Namco, 07/25/19) – 1,830 (450,299)
25. [PS4] Grand Theft Auto V: Premium Online Edition (Bargain Edition Reprint) (Rockstar Games, 12/06/18) – 1,825 (68,505)
26. [NSW] Mr. Driller DrillLand (Bandai Namco, 06/18/20) – 1,705 (8,366)
27. [PS4] Final Fantasy VII Remake (Square Enix, 04/10/20) – 1,656 (932,821)
28. [NSW] Taiko no Tatsujin: Drum ‘n’ Fun (Bandai Namco, 07/19/18) – 1,543 (487,592)
29. [NSW] Fitness Boxing (Imagineer, 12/20/18) – 1,527 (117,712)
30. [PS4] Monster Hunter World: Iceborne Master Edition (Capcom, 09/06/19) – 1,485 (480,784)

If a game like Clubhouse Games passes it this week that is not a good sign, that is a crash and burn IMO.  And these are just last weeks numbers.  Anyway you slice it the game is a failure in a VERY important market and comparing it to other failures to make it seem like a success is very disingenuous.

Running quick numbers Japan makes up roughly 11% of console install base (about 8% of the PS4 install base), that is a very important % of the industry just based on install base not taking into account the amount of software sales they take up (will look into that further later as well).

NA makes up about 42% (33% of PS4) so it is a very important factor of overall success of the console version of video games and Europe makes up 33% (42% of PS4) so almost every PS4 launch is a success there.  That is why I'm curious about NA numbers because American video game trends tend to be more in line with the Japanese market which does not bode well for the legs of TLOU2.

See my updated post, you fail to see what my point is.  NA Video Game trends mirror Japanese Video Game trends currently, not a good sign for TLOU2 to perform well outside of Europe long term, even more so when you know that a PS5 version will be coming.

And you fail to read my post as well, I said the game was a failure in Japan compared to other genres and franchises. "it is still a failure compared to other games there is my point."

Care to link that claim highlighted?

Sony exclusives have no legs yet many have legged out to be 10M+ Sellers.

Horizon 2 weeks 2.7M, already >10M.
God of War 3.1M 3 Days, already >10M
Spider Man 3.3M 3 Days, already 13M+
The Last of Us 3M in a Month, already 20M+
Uncharted 4 2.7M 1 Week, already 16M+
Last of Us 2 4.?M 3 Days,.....

You have no idea what you're talking about. Plenty of western games that do well in NA fair poorly in Japan and of course the vice-versa too. A game doesn't have to have blockbuster sales in Japan to do amazing in NA.

The NA market in no way mirrors the Japanese market.

Compared to Nintendo already with 9 in 3 years... And if we combine sales New Super Mario Bros. U makes it 10

Nintendo games are still on the top selling charts every week/month even years after release, Sony games do not do that.

And I didn't say they didn't sell well, I said they didn't have legs... almost every one of those games you listed had 25% of their sales in the first few weeks, that's not good legs and the TLOU has roughly 10m on the PS4

So you are a big nNntendo fan......makes sense.

Well seeing as Nintendo is more of a 1st party console one would expect a majority of their games to remain in the top selling charts every week/month. But that is just my opinion. Because I definitely don't have a single 3rd party game on my Switch currently.

Also so all Nintendo games that had a great first week and are 10mil or less have bad legs? Or any company for that matter? Just trying to be clear here for myself for future knowledge.

I said currently, buying used games is not exactly an easy thing right now and digital sales are up overall.  We don't have a great deal of data on US sales but we do get from Amazon (which has a good portion of the market and probably an increased amount at the moment with the current world situation) buying trends are very similar when looking at overall sales charts positions.  Hence why I asked if we had any data on US sales yet.

Yeah, I would view it that way about legs but it is a "subjective" topic overall.  If you fall off of best selling charts within a couple weeks/months after release that can't be a good thing for overall sales (even more so when you take into count the amount that these games get discounted and bundled) and making money.

I'm a Nintendo fan, but you provided some data and I provided data on what I think presents a better idea of what "legs" look like.

Doesn't really make sense to expect Nintendo 1st party console games to consistently do well and not expect Sony titles to do the same with how much people like to say that the PS4 is successful because of their 1st party games...

 I would agree it is semi subjective as far as legs goes. So in saying that it means you could be right and others can be wrong and vice versa. Do you have any proof that says that if a game falls off the top selling charts in the first couple of weeks/months is always bad for a games overall sales and making money?  Or is that just your personal thought?

That a big part of why the PS4 has been successful, because of Sony 1st party games. Which have been doing consistently well. So I guess I don't see where the issue is. This generation has been one of the biggest if not THE biggest for Sony 1st party games and their sales. To think other wise would mean one would think that almost all Sony 1st party games before this generation did not do well.

So I guess I am just at a loss to how you came to your stance.