Forums - Sales Discussion - Prediction: PS5 and Xbox Series X combined will sell less than 120M.

Impossible since PS5 will do 120M by itself.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

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Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

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I don't see it.
Even if the sales trajectory starts looking that rough, I think both Sony and Microsoft would be willing to bite the bullet and cut prices significantly, which should save them from ending up quite that low. But I don't think that will be necesarry in the first place. I could see them selling slower than the current gen, but I also wouldn't be suprised if the next gen ends up being a bit longer, so I don't expect lifetime sales to be too different.



Well... He didn't include the Series S so...

But I do think ps5 might do better than 80 million however it's hard to tell until we get past the launch and see how they both perform.



             

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Bonzinga said:
I predict 80m each for both consoles. 160m life time for both. That's due to the PC market growing and Cloud Streaming. Xbox Live and PS Now will start eating into console sales and more and more console games will cross to the PC.

I think you are the first in VGC I have seem openly saying thinks Xbox Series X will sell on similar numbers as PS5.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

I highly doubt it, gaming is growing bigger and bigger worldwide and countries & regions that aren't known to purchase consoles are now buying them more and more. The PS4 is killing it in the "Rest of the World" sales more than any other console which is showing that console gaming worldwide is a growing business, plus there's gonna be a newer generation who grew up surrounded by video games unlike the 50+ year olds. Also it's likely there's going to be multiple console models this gen like a PS5/Xbox SX Pro or a rumored budget Xbox "Lockhart" console which will boost sales this gen.



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DonFerrari said:
Bonzinga said:
I predict 80m each for both consoles. 160m life time for both. That's due to the PC market growing and Cloud Streaming. Xbox Live and PS Now will start eating into console sales and more and more console games will cross to the PC.

I think you are the first in VGC I have seem openly saying thinks Xbox Series X will sell on similar numbers as PS5.

Give or take, maybe not exactly 50/50, PS5 might hit 100 while XSX hits 60, than again.. it was only one gen ago we had both systems on par with each other. Its not impossible to see them on par again. All comes down to customer value.



Bonzinga said:
DonFerrari said:

I think you are the first in VGC I have seem openly saying thinks Xbox Series X will sell on similar numbers as PS5.

Give or take, maybe not exactly 50/50, PS5 might hit 100 while XSX hits 60, than again.. it was only one gen ago we had both systems on par with each other. Its not impossible to see them on par again. All comes down to customer value.

Well there is a big margin between 60-100 to 80-80. But well you may be right. It is just that even Xbox fans of long time in VGC expect the gap to close but still having a big gap because of Europe and Japan, while Xbox outsell PS comfortably on USA and UK.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

DonFerrari said:
Bonzinga said:
I predict 80m each for both consoles. 160m life time for both. That's due to the PC market growing and Cloud Streaming. Xbox Live and PS Now will start eating into console sales and more and more console games will cross to the PC.

I think you are the first in VGC I have seem openly saying thinks Xbox Series X will sell on similar numbers as PS5.

They may very well be right. I am looking at it a little differently next gen. If both companies don't slip up at launch i can see gamer's wanting to get both eventually. On that note, the 360 parred with the PS3 and it did it without Japan and Europe so its not entirely impossible. It all depends how these companies launch and the value behind them.

I quoted the wrong post you sent /facepalm

That reply was for your 2nd post.



What makes you think the consoles will be unappealing to the general consumer? I at least will give you that my mother would never let me to have something as tall as the PS5 without asking how much of a fortune it costed me. It's an interesting prediction the one you make, though. Maybe prices and sizes will definitely be a factor after all, although it's too early to tell.



Bonzinga said:
DonFerrari said:

I think you are the first in VGC I have seem openly saying thinks Xbox Series X will sell on similar numbers as PS5.

They may very well be right. I am looking at it a little differently next gen. If both companies don't slip up at launch i can see gamer's wanting to get both eventually. On that note, the 360 parred with the PS3 and it did it without Japan and Europe so its not entirely impossible. It all depends how these companies launch and the value behind them.

Yep. I don't expect Sony to make the same mistakes that they did on PS3, also don't expect MS to do the mistakes of X1. So I can see Xbox reaching 60-70M and PS5 110-120M. But sure it could end up both on 80-90M.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994