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I mean did 360 just sell really well because everybody replace there 1st one after getting RRoD? Do like the 1st 40 million sales were really 20 million. Does that make sense? As in well maybe xbox will always sell way less the playstation.



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A narrow focus on online gaming and too little on big single-player experiences, lack of truly impactful exclusives. Mandatory Kinect was massively stupid and drove up the price a fair bit while having zero proper integration with and/or effect on actual gaming. Remnants of a bad reputation from the insane failure rates of the Xbox 360 were another factor for sure. No one year head start to one-up Sony this time, with a resurgence in MS' PC gaming efforts, some toll was taken out on the Xbox brand, a brand that has very little support in MS as a whole. The presentation, DRM solutions and overall PR surrounding the reveal and consequent info dumps were all disastrous as well, quite a few mistakes were made even before the thing launched ("for those who don't have a 24-hour connection, we have the Xbox 360").

From where I'm sitting, it makes perfect sense that the Xbox has been trounced. I own both machines, and I find that neither of them is especially appealing in their design, interfaces, and menus, but the PS4 has so many amazing single-player games. I have only two games I mainly play on Xbox One, even though I want to play single-player only, they both make it a point to constantly nag me about not playing multiplayer online (I'm having huge disadvantages because of this) and more or less hammer in my point about narrow focus on online, along with the constant begging about joining Live every damn time I start up a game. For a person like me, mid-30's, who enjoys single-player most of all and has enough to shell out on games, the PS4 is the obvious choice, along with the PC.

Kudos for making an SKU with 4K Blu-ray support though, it's still comical that Sony won't sell a console to support their own film format (this is among the main reasons I bought my Xbox One Slim). Another kudos for not diving headlong into the VR scene, it seems to have been really slow overall (PS VR seems to be around the 5-5.5 million mark, meaning less than 5% attach rate).



It's those the worst marketing campaign ever done by Don Mattrick that drove millions of people away from Xbox brand.
1. Discussions were largely about TV then game.
2. DRM policies and given bad advice was like "for those wanted to play offline mode they should go stick with last gen console".
3. Lower end RAM type(DDR3+ESRAM) that causes sluggish performance.

Funny, i bought Xbox One S then upgraded to Xbox One X cause.. it's really hard for me it's still my beloved secondary console(Switch is my main), i still love their franchises despite the heavy weight free update contents while my PS4 is a...ahh... lol a modern Japanese SEGA games library just in case for timed exclusives that they take too much longer before i die.



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It started with bad PR and price being higher for a weaker console on MS part.

Then their 1st party support paled compared to the previous gen, while Sony (despite having a slower output in the first few years) continued to deliver what they started on the 2nd half of the PS3's life cycle.

Sony also took most of the 3rd party timed deals, which MS had the generation prior.

Then the Cherry on top was that people generally go wgere their friends are for online gaming. The gap had grown so wide that the odds that the PS4 being that platform grew exponentially higher overall.



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Runa216 said:
Chris Hu said:
The notion that the PS4 has a vastly superior software lineup over the X1 is utter BS. The PS1 and PS2 did have vastly superior software lineups over their competing systems. When it comes to 3rd party games the PS1 and PS2 was the clear winner. When it comes to 1st party games the PS2 was the clear winner and the PS1 gets a slight edge over the N64.

Wait, is this an onion article? I ask because that's like, one of the most universally agreed upon realities. the Ps4's lineup is vastly superior to the XBox One's in literally every way. Reception, sales, variety, etc. you can argue backwards compatibility and power and multimedia aspects all you want, but if you're honestly arguing that the console lineups were similar, you deserve all the laughs you're going to get. 

this post is a prime example of the oversensitivity these days, if one doesn't agree he overblows it the other way... saying it wasn't vastly superior doesn't equal or means it was equal in any way shape or form



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PAOerfulone said:
Chris Hu said:
The notion that the PS4 has a vastly superior software lineup over the X1 is utter BS. The PS1 and PS2 did have vastly superior software lineups over their competing systems. When it comes to 3rd party games the PS1 and PS2 was the clear winner. When it comes to 1st party games the PS2 was the clear winner and the PS1 gets a slight edge over the N64.

Where on the Xbox One can I get Persona, Spider-Man, Uncharted, God of War, Last of Us, Gran Turismo, Ghosts of Tsushima, Ratchet and Clank, Horizon, MLB the Show, Bloodborne, inFamous, Detroit, Dragon Quest, and FFVII Remake just to name a few?

And it’s not just quantity. Most, if not all, of those games I just listed were Game of Year contenders when they released. So it’s quality ON TOP of quantity.

All of that vs. Halo, Forza, and Gears? Quantum Break if you feel generous. 

It’s not a notion, it’s a fact. The PS4’s library IS vastly superior. 

so which one of these can i actually play with my homies? GT and MLB?



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kirby007 said:
Runa216 said:

Wait, is this an onion article? I ask because that's like, one of the most universally agreed upon realities. the Ps4's lineup is vastly superior to the XBox One's in literally every way. Reception, sales, variety, etc. you can argue backwards compatibility and power and multimedia aspects all you want, but if you're honestly arguing that the console lineups were similar, you deserve all the laughs you're going to get. 

this post is a prime example of the oversensitivity these days, if one doesn't agree he overblows it the other way... saying it wasn't vastly superior doesn't equal or means it was equal in any way shape or form

Then add precision to avoid confusion. How much superior?



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The "All in one Device" "home entertainment system and Kinect included in all boxes" Idea/strategy didn't work, mostly if you have to pay 100 extra bucks for a much less powerful machine, also the Always Online and DRM didn't work well. Bad presentation from the beginning, wrong strategy gave a negative image to the XBox One, and MS was never able to recover from. Sony on the other hand, released a "perfect machine", cheaper, more powerful, easier to develop for, cool and simple.

It appears MS learned from their mistakes, and XSX seems more competitive in view of the next generation.



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DonFerrari said:
kirby007 said:

this post is a prime example of the oversensitivity these days, if one doesn't agree he overblows it the other way... saying it wasn't vastly superior doesn't equal or means it was equal in any way shape or form

Then add precision to avoid confusion. How much superior?

Why would i speak for the guy he originally quoted? " just live with the fact that saying "it isn't vastly superior" doesn't equal "equal" or whatever you guys had in your mind that got you riled up to pile up on him



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kirby007 said:
DonFerrari said:

Then add precision to avoid confusion. How much superior?

Why would i speak for the guy he originally quoted? " just live with the fact that saying "it isn't vastly superior" doesn't equal "equal" or whatever you guys had in your mind that got you riled up to pile up on him

So you want to defend him without knowing what he ment? And for you how superior is it? Because i have seem you provoking a lot of people and challenging them for more precision, names, data, source, etc, but at the same time you just try to avoid doing it yourself. Basically only looking to steer problem.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994