Forums - Sony Discussion - Is Sony trying to shed it's "Sad Dad Games" image on PS5?

kirby007 said:
I dont agree with the naming term idlike to coin the phrase : games enjoyed by the introverted singleplayer guy

I'm married and quite extroverted tho



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DonFerrari said:
kirby007 said:
I dont agree with the naming term idlike to coin the phrase : games enjoyed by the introverted singleplayer guy

I'm married and quite extroverted tho

your wife sees the difference between HD and 4k, thats an exception to the rule



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kirby007 said:
DonFerrari said:

I'm married and quite extroverted tho

your wife sees the difference between HD and 4k, thats an exception to the rule

But she complain everytime I call her to se if she can see a difference =p



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TheMisterManGuy said:

The PlayStation 4 was home to some of Sony Interactive Entertainment's finest output yet. Sony is only second to Nintendo in crafting some of the most iconic worlds, characters, stories and gameplay moments in the industry, and PS4 continued that trend with hit games like Uncharted 4, God of War (2018), Spider-Man, Death Stranding, Horizon: Zero Dawn, Dreams, Until Dawn, Bloodborne, Concrete Genie, Astro Bot Rescue Mission, and upcoming titles like Ghosts of Tsushima. That said, Sony has also built up a sort of stigma surrounding SIE and its games. Many claim that most of the PS4's first party lineup consists of overbudget realistic, cinematic, third person action-adventure spectacles staring "Sad Dads".

While that is an exaggerated take, It does feel like we've seen an increased focus on these games in the last few years, and not enough of the variety that filled the days of the PS1, PS2, PS3, PSP, or even the earlier half of the PS4, so it's not like Sony was helping that image, hence memes like the "PlayStation Exclusive Template". PlayStation has always been known for cinematic games, even going all the way back to the original PlayStation, but many felt it was a bit too much on the PS4.

But Sony is seemingly hoping to change that with PlayStation 5, and its new "PlayStation Studios" publishing label. During its PS5 reveal broadcast, Sony showcased a number of first party PlayStation games, several of which were a bit of a departure from most of the games Sony has been putting out recently. Not only are we getting a new Ratchet & Clank entry for the first time in several years, but they also showed a 3D Little Big Planet Spin-off "Sackboy: A Big Adventure", a big new multiplayer IP "Destruction Allstars", a pack-in title "Astro's PlayRoom", and a remake of the PS3 cult hit "Demon's Souls". Of course, the trademark PlayStation style wasn't gone either, with trailers for new Spider Man and Horizon Games, as well as Housemarque's first AAA game "Returnal".

It does feel like Sony, Specifically newly appointed Worldwide Studios President, Herman Hulst, does want to try and shed that image it built up in the PS4, and show that PlayStation is more than capable of offering a large and varied lineup of games.

lol... how's Sony second to Nintendo on the below aspects? 

 iconic worlds, characters, stories and gameplay moments

The ranking would be Sony > Microsoft > Nintendo. If you consider quantity or quality or memorableness. Nintendo games are just fun, easy to play and target younger kids that's their appeal. 



I would like to see Sony cultivate some home grown RPG’s... seems like the biggest hole in their first party lineup... maybe bring back legend of dragoon? Make it into an ongoing franchise like it should have been!



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Playstation 4 has so much diversity in types and styles of games, significantly more than other consoles, especially with their indie game which are not ports of mobile games Sound Shapes, The Unfinished Suan, Journey, Flower, to totally bizarre games Hatoful Boyfriend, gravity rush, the last guardian, persona 5 royal, Astro Bot Rescue Mission, everybody's golf

I presume playstation 5 will have some much diversity as well



Drakrami said:

The ranking would be Sony > Microsoft > Nintendo. If you consider quantity or quality or memorableness. Nintendo games are just fun, easy to play and target younger kids that's their appeal. 

Nintendo owns arguably the most recognizable characters and worlds in the entire gaming industry. Even people who don't play a lot of games can tell you who Mario is. And their games target everyone, not just kids. 



If Sony games are "sad dad" games. Can I say that Nintendo games are "for children"?

Usually see people getting moderated by calling Nintendo games "kiddy games". But it can't be more insulting than "sad dad", right?



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JRPGfan said:
KLXVER said:

The only thing I would like Sony to focus more on is replayability. I love several of their games, but I feel like story is too much of a focus in many of them. I just never seem to go back to their games once Ive finished them.(A few exceptions of course) Thats just a bit of a selfish wish I know, since I know many people play their games over and over. I just feel the gameplay could be a bit more fun and random I guess.

The otherside of the coin:
Nintendo isnt good at story telling, so they rarely do any of it (with their games) (most dont even have cut scenes or voice acting),
I wish that they would learn to do it better, but thats just my selfish wish I know.

^ you see how "bait" worthy what you wrote is? when your own words are said back to you (just story <--> replayabiliy swapped?


Plus:

Alot of Sony games are 30-60 hours long (to beat).
While Nintendo has some like Starfox that was 3 hours to beat, but didnt get roasted for it by critics because of "replayablity".
(how many people didnt get bored out of their minds, by the time they replayed it like 2-3 times? and was their enjoyment higher than if they played a good quality story based game?)

I'd argue that something like God of War, many people have probably beat multiple times.
Spiderman is something thats also easily replayable, simply because people enjoy the feeling of swinning around and the combat.
Hell even Ratchet & Clank.

Its not like Sony games dont have any replayability at all, and its just something magically that only nintendo has.


MODs..... why are so many Nintendo fans in here being allowed to bait this much?

Starfox is a great example of how critics take easy on Nintendo. But let's not start it, or you and I are going to be moderated. Nintendo is a protected brand on VGC.



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My Total Sales prediction for PS4 by the end of 2021: 110m+

When PS4 will hit 100m consoles sold: Before Christmas 2019

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TheMisterManGuy said:

Sony arguably has just as many memorable and iconic characters as Nintendo. The Problem was that PlayStation All-Stars didn't do them proper justice. It was a mediocre game with a flawed KO system, half the roster going to third party characters nobody asked for, and cheap presentation. Not the kind of treatment a cast as large and varied as PlayStation's deserved. 

I just don't agree with the assertion that Sony has just as many iconic characters as Nintendo. Heck, in one single series (Pokemon) they have several dozen iconic characters. There is a reason why Playstation used a lot of third party characters in All Stars.