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I had no idea they had a "sad dad image", or that the concept itself even existed. What a weird fixation.



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Pyro as Bill said:

Sony always has variety but if you mean games like TLoU, Uncharted and GoW then it's true that most of their biggest/most popular games are 'sad dad' games.

Sony's other games either aren't as good/appealing or Playstation doesn't attract a big enough audience for those types of games.

You mean like Horizon, Spider-Man, Gran Turismo etc...



KLXVER said:

The only thing I would like Sony to focus more on is replayability. I love several of their games, but I feel like story is too much of a focus in many of them. I just never seem to go back to their games once Ive finished them.(A few exceptions of course) Thats just a bit of a selfish wish I know, since I know many people play their games over and over. I just feel the gameplay could be a bit more fun and random I guess.

That's a good point. With a few exceptions there games have very little replay value. I found this very noticeable when I tried to replay a chapter in uncharted 4 and just finding it so tedious and dull on a second play through. Although I find bloodborne very replayable. 



V-r0cK said:
Pyro as Bill said:

Sony always has variety but if you mean games like TLoU, Uncharted and GoW then it's true that most of their biggest/most popular games are 'sad dad' games.

Sony's other games either aren't as good/appealing or Playstation doesn't attract a big enough audience for those types of games.

You mean like Horizon, Spider-Man, Gran Turismo etc...

Key word is "Most"



pikashoe said:
KLXVER said:

The only thing I would like Sony to focus more on is replayability. I love several of their games, but I feel like story is too much of a focus in many of them. I just never seem to go back to their games once Ive finished them.(A few exceptions of course) Thats just a bit of a selfish wish I know, since I know many people play their games over and over. I just feel the gameplay could be a bit more fun and random I guess.

That's a good point. With a few exceptions there games have very little replay value. I found this very noticeable when I tried to replay a chapter in uncharted 4 and just finding it so tedious and dull on a second play through. Although I find bloodborne very replayable. 

Yeah, Ive beaten Bloodborne like 5 times. Amazing game with great replay value. I think that has a lot to do with From Software though. They are masters of replay value.



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V-r0cK said:
Pyro as Bill said:

Sony always has variety but if you mean games like TLoU, Uncharted and GoW then it's true that most of their biggest/most popular games are 'sad dad' games.

Sony's other games either aren't as good/appealing or Playstation doesn't attract a big enough audience for those types of games.

You mean like Horizon, Spider-Man, Gran Turismo etc...

I don't consider Spiderman as one of Sony's just as I don't think of Goldeneye as being Nintendo's. TLoU/Uncharted/GoW have been huge games for 2 gens now.

The types of games that Nintendo/MS sell 10-20m of don't do the same numbers when Sony makes them. Platformers, arcade racers, fighting games, party games, online shooters, local multi in general.



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""The PlayStation 4 was home to some of Sony Interactive Entertainment's finest output yet. Sony is only second to Nintendo in crafting some of the most iconic worlds, characters, stories and gameplay moments in the industry""

I'm sorry to disappoint you, but Sony is not second to Nintendo; actually, I believe Sony have surpassed Nintendo with new IPs and advancement in gameplay mechanics, iconic unique big and interactive worlds, art design, story telling, more credible and advanced AI, etc. Just my point of view.

I don't think you can start out with "I'm sorry to disappoint you" and then end with "just my point of view". The first sentence says that you are right and the other person is wrong while the ending says that it's only an opinion. So which is it?

Also name one recent Sony game with gameplay as unique and original as splatoon. Or with a world as diverse and interactive as hyrule in BOTW. Name a Sony character as iconic as Mario, pikachu, link or even Isabelle. I'll give you storytelling to an extent, personally I don't think Sony use the medium to tell stories that could only be told in gaming. AI I don't think either Nintendo or Sony pushes AI to new levels. Art design is very debatable either way. 

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Would Metroid: Other M count as a 'glum mum' game?



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Pyro as Bill said:

Sony always has variety but if you mean games like TLoU, Uncharted and GoW then it's true that most of their biggest/most popular games are 'sad dad' games.

Sony's other games either aren't as good/appealing or Playstation doesn't attract a big enough audience for those types of games.

TLOU would be the only game to even be about a dad. Uncharted had the protagonist being a dad just at the epilogue and GoW on the last game. And to tell the truth they aren't even sad.

Almost all the IPs on PS4 sold great so you are really wrong on their games not atracting a big audience.

Mnementh said:
DonFerrari said:

Are we really inventing genres to fit?

Everybody Golf is a sport game with RPG elements if you want to go like that. The SIMS is a life simulation. fitness adventure?

For me it just seems like you are pretending there is a whole genre to cover a single game Nintendo created to pad the numbers.

Everyone does actually. As you look at it, you actually could put TLOU in the same genre as Zelda: action adventure. With that Sony has nothing special. But as I see it, there are differences. But that is exactly what I said: everyone defines genres differently. You argued that position only to circle back and deliver an expample yourself. And I said before: as people define their genres some can come to the conclusion PS4 has the most diverse library ever, while others think that Switch has that price. It is all a question of your viewpoint.

No, there isn't something as defyning genres differently, genres are classifications so they aren't to be individualized. If you want to put TLOU as action adventure instead of surviving horror that is on you or when you don't consider Zelda a RPG. You are torturing definitions to try and make a point to give Nintendo a win.

hinch said:
Mnementh said:

I would argue Rayman and Lara Croft are quite iconic. But true, Nintendo has a great talent to develop lasting characters. Maybe because they don't give up on them and jump to a different series. Sony abandoned Spyro and Crash, maybe if they had stick with them they would be as iconic today as Mario.

I'm pretty sure Sony has never owned those IP's. As far as I'm aware Spyro was owned by Universal Studios, then acquired by Activison. Crash Bandicoot was also owned by Activision and currently still is. Sony just published their games.

Yep they never owned but the IPs were created by the studios they bought.

pikashoe said:
KLXVER said:

The only thing I would like Sony to focus more on is replayability. I love several of their games, but I feel like story is too much of a focus in many of them. I just never seem to go back to their games once Ive finished them.(A few exceptions of course) Thats just a bit of a selfish wish I know, since I know many people play their games over and over. I just feel the gameplay could be a bit more fun and random I guess.

That's a good point. With a few exceptions there games have very little replay value. I found this very noticeable when I tried to replay a chapter in uncharted 4 and just finding it so tedious and dull on a second play through. Although I find bloodborne very replayable. 

Considering I have platined Uncharted 1 to 3 twice and once for 4 and Lost Legacy (having to play 3 times per plat) I would say I found a lot of replayability.



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