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Which was better?

DS 62 65.96%
 
PSP 32 34.04%
 
Total:94
Conina said:
HoangNhatAnh said:

Disagree with that. DS also have Chrono Trigger, Dragon Quest IV V VI IX, Shin Megami Tensei Strange Journey, Devil Survivor, Metroid Prime Hunter, Moon, Ninja Gaiden, Dementium,  Theresia Dear Emile, Nanashi no Game, Buffy the Vampire Slayer. These games are anything but kiddy. 

Oh, there was a Buffy game for DS? Was it any good?

I enjoyed the Buffy game on the original Xbox a lot back then (the first one, not "Chaos Bleeds")

Not bad, good enough for my taste.

m0ney said:
HoangNhatAnh said:

Disagree with that. DS also have Chrono Trigger, Dragon Quest IV V VI IX, Shin Megami Tensei Strange Journey, Devil Survivor, Metroid Prime Hunter, Moon, Ninja Gaiden, Dementium,  Theresia Dear Emile, Nanashi no Game, Buffy the Vampire Slayer. These games are anything but kiddy. 

But overall they do have kiddy presentation.

DS strongest point isn't 1st party games, but 3rd party games, and there are many types of games for children/adult/women. Saying it is just a kiddy platform is completely clueless, a "kiddy" system won't have any mature game, DS has a lot mature games from 3rd parties.

Vodacixi said:
HoangNhatAnh said:

Disagree with that. DS also have Chrono Trigger, Dragon Quest IV V VI IX, Shin Megami Tensei Strange Journey, Devil Survivor, Metroid Prime Hunter, Moon, Ninja Gaiden, Dementium,  Theresia Dear Emile, Nanashi no Game, Buffy the Vampire Slayer. These games are anything but kiddy. 

I would add Hotel Dusk, Last Window, Another Code, 999, GTA Chinatown Wars (originally a NDS exclusive BTW), Civilization Revolution and Radian Historia to the list.

I'm not saying that the NDS catalogue was heavily targeting a mature audience because that would be flat out lying. But if someone says that the console lacked that type of games, they are just speaking from ignorance.

I only mentioned enough games to counter back those psp games. I know ds has a lot more than that.

Bold: Agree.



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Leynos said:

I no longer have the source on this as the website no longer exists. So don't quote me on it.  I seem to recall something about DS 3D ability as a late change hearing those 2003/4 reports of what PSP was promising. Not that dissimilar of a response SEGA had with Saturn to PS1. There was a photo of either a very early dev kit or prototype of 2 GBA screens on a circuit board with a SNES controller attached like a Frankenstein machine. That photo is burned into my memory but been maybe 15 years since I saw it. I know a lot of early DS 3rd party games were GBA like. Maybe DS was just going to be a dual-screen GBA. Don't take this as me spouting this as gospel. I have no evidence just memory of something about it on a long-dead website.

On the flip side what I do find funny is in a sense DS was revenge for N64. PSP went disc and that hurt them a lot. DS went cart and that benefited them a lot. UMD was an absolute failure of a format.

*Quotes you on this*

Hey, I know what it's like to have images and quotes burned into your memory that nobody else seems to remember. I believe you.



PSP was groundbreaking for it's time but the DS was the better system for me. Simply had a more diverse, more interesting library of games. Not to mention it was cheaper, had batter battery life, faster loading times (just more practical in every way tbh) and it was fully backwards compatible with the GBA library!

PSP is better now in some ways as it's a great emulation machine but when the 2 systems were relevant during their life spans I have to hand it to the DS.



Got it both handhelds during the 7th gen days in the late 2006, i focused on DS so much overtime because there were variety games, big thanks to the Capcom, Konami, SEGA and Square-Enix for making DS platform extremely well done, and let's not forget about Nintendo... they really made very good first party games on the DS.



d21lewis said:
I think the biggest drawback for the original DS was that it did 3D gaming but it didn't do it nearly as well as the PSP. Lots of games, while still good, were 2D or 2.5D. I constantly found myself looking for a graphical showcase and too often found myself with underwhelming games like GoldenEye. Its strengths were creative game design and accessibility.

I championed the DS for years and I guess it deserved to beat the PSP in sales. I'm glad it did, actually. I hated Sony's arrogance. But when I got that PSP, my whole world changed.

Off the top of my head, Dementium II and Metroid Prime Hunters were pretty good showcases of DS's graphical capabilities.



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d21lewis said:
I think the biggest drawback for the original DS was that it did 3D gaming but it didn't do it nearly as well as the PSP. Lots of games, while still good, were 2D or 2.5D. I constantly found myself looking for a graphical showcase and too often found myself with underwhelming games like GoldenEye. Its strengths were creative game design and accessibility.

I championed the DS for years and I guess it deserved to beat the PSP in sales. I'm glad it did, actually. I hated Sony's arrogance. But when I got that PSP, my whole world changed.

There was his awesome comic app where you could buy comics from the store i loved that.



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mjk45 said:
d21lewis said:
I think the biggest drawback for the original DS was that it did 3D gaming but it didn't do it nearly as well as the PSP. Lots of games, while still good, were 2D or 2.5D. I constantly found myself looking for a graphical showcase and too often found myself with underwhelming games like GoldenEye. Its strengths were creative game design and accessibility.

I championed the DS for years and I guess it deserved to beat the PSP in sales. I'm glad it did, actually. I hated Sony's arrogance. But when I got that PSP, my whole world changed.

There was his awesome comic app where you could buy comics from the store i loved that.

Same. I bought motion comics from the store and soooo many digital comics. System was so ahead of its time. Even now, I can only read comics digitally with that panel to panel view.



d21lewis said:
I think the biggest drawback for the original DS was that it did 3D gaming but it didn't do it nearly as well as the PSP. Lots of games, while still good, were 2D or 2.5D. I constantly found myself looking for a graphical showcase and too often found myself with underwhelming games like GoldenEye. Its strengths were creative game design and accessibility.

I championed the DS for years and I guess it deserved to beat the PSP in sales. I'm glad it did, actually. I hated Sony's arrogance. But when I got that PSP, my whole world changed.

I understand where you are coming from, but I think we've all gotta remember what the landscape was like back then. In 2004-2005 the PSP was a handheld that cost more than most consoles. Today's comparison would be a GDP Win 2 for a whopping $740. The fact that PSP sold at all, at the $250 price point, back in the early days blew my mind.



I think Switch has a free Comic app.



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d21lewis said:
mjk45 said:

There was his awesome comic app where you could buy comics from the store i loved that.

Same. I bought motion comics from the store and soooo many digital comics. System was so ahead of its time. Even now, I can only read comics digitally with that panel to panel view.

I never read "normal" comics (no animations, no sound) on my PSP, but the MGS Digital Novel was awesome:


View on YouTube

Still don't know why they canceled the PSP release of the second MGS novel although it was finished:


View on YouTube

Nowadays I often read digital comics on my iPad and thanks to the high resolution yo don't even need the panel-by-panel view anymore.