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The PS4 shipped 110.4m by March 31st. Lifetime sales expectations?

Less than 120 million 143 12.11%
 
120.0 - 122.4 million 202 17.10%
 
122.5 - 124.9 million 138 11.69%
 
125.0 - 127.4 million 201 17.02%
 
127.5 - 129.9 million 109 9.23%
 
130.0 - 132.4 million 180 15.24%
 
132.5 - 134.9 million 27 2.29%
 
135.0 - 137.4 million 26 2.20%
 
137.5 - 140.0 million 17 1.44%
 
More than 140 million 138 11.69%
 
Total:1,181
DonFerrari on 18 May 2020
ArchangelMadzz said:
RolStoppable said:

Last week Sony reported that the PS4 had reached 110.4m in life to date shipments by March 31, 2020. This translates to 13.6m for the past twelve months (April 2019 to March 2020), down from 17.8m in the year before. Sony did not provide a PS4 hardware forecast for the current fiscal year ending March 2021, but it's supposed to be announced in August when Sony next reports on their financials.

A continuation of the PS4's decline is expected because the PS5 is still on track for its scheduled launch during the holiday season 2020, but how far can the PS4 go?

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Bonus question: Hindsight is 20/20. When Microsoft announced their vision for the Xbox One roughly seven years ago, a huge gamer movement formed to push back against Microsoft's policies, such as always online and big restrictions on used game sales. Said movement ultimately succeeded because Microsoft abolished some of their policies before they launched their Xbox One console, demonstrating that gamers do have the power to dictate the direction. However, concurrently the same movement remained silent when Sony announced that they would stop providing the options for free online multiplayer or a paid premium online service, putting everything behind a PS+ subscription. Do you think the collective gaming community should have taken a stand, are you indifferent because you don't play online games anyway, or are you fine with gamers sending the message that it's okay to screw them over as long as it is Sony who is performing the deed?

I don't think that's true.

You can still use a lot of internet based services that are subscriptions elsewhere. without PS+ you can still use party chat, share screenshots, live stream to twitch and other services. Use all of the streaming apps like netflix, etc. (Although I think that last one MS changed their minds so you can use it without any XB live if someone can correct me on that?)

And you can still play online on F2P games as well without PS+.

Yes the 2 biggest changes on Gold service were offering games for free and taking subscription services from the paywall due to PSN and PS+.

But as far as I know F2P games still depend on Gold.



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Wman1996 on 18 May 2020

I say right around 130 million. I actually do think the inevitable permanent price cuts will help the PS4. There will be people who want a PS5, but can't afford or find one. And then they'll see a PS4 for $200 and jump in.



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Switch: 151 million (was 73, then 96, then 113 million, then 125 million, then 144 million)

PS5: 115 million (was 105 million) Xbox Series S/X: 57 million (was 60 million, then 67 million)

PS4: 120 mil (was 100 then 130 million, then 122 million) Xbox One: 51 mil (was 50 then 55 mil)

3DS: 75.5 mil (was 73, then 77 million)

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KazumaKiryu on 19 May 2020

Congratulation :) The best Console in the last 8 Year, so many fantastic Games and Exclusives!
140 Millions are possible, i think. Most developers will continue to support the PS4 for years to come :)



Knitemare on 19 May 2020

I believe it will be like ps3. selling low amounts every week, but constant, after the PS5 is already solid in its life. Because maybe 6 months after PS5 launch, ps4 will sell like hot bread, since the prices will drop, making it affordable for people who wanted to have it, and didnt have the money for it before.

For the second question, I dont use MP side of games, so I dont care that much, but for sure I would like some of the premium things for free, like saves on the cloud at least.



                          

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Mr_No on 20 May 2020

I'd say around 125m units lifetime.



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TruckOSaurus on 22 May 2020

I'll stick with my early year estimate of about 130m. I'd be curious to hear from the "more than 140m" crowd to see how they get to that number.



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ZS on 22 May 2020
TruckOSaurus said:
I'll stick with my early year estimate of about 130m. I'd be curious to hear from the "more than 140m" crowd to see how they get to that number.

I reckon it’s because there may be room for a big price cut, still basically full priced since launch, and to push the console into poor/developing countries, and to the people that don’t have the luxury of buying video games like the PS1 and PS2. The world is a different place now than when the PS1/PS2 and PS2/PS3 co-existed as a cheaper last gen/expensive next gen console. 

130m is a reasonable target, but we will find out in the coming years. 



kazuyamishima on 22 May 2020
TruckOSaurus said:
I'll stick with my early year estimate of about 130m. I'd be curious to hear from the "more than 140m" crowd to see how they get to that number.

By the end of this year it will be around 118 million units sold o customer.

End of March around 120 million units. Even PS3 sold around 11 million units after PS4 released.



KazumaKiryu on 22 May 2020
Mr_No said:
I'd say around 125m units lifetime.

only 125 million units ? Interesting :) that sounds not strong enough, in my personally opinion.

12 Years Games-Support for the PS4 are easly possible, overall.

And the biggest Games coming in the next two months:

The Last of Us 2 + Ghost of Tsushima !! Two impressive Games with the best Graphic.



Farsala on 22 May 2020
kazuyamishima said:
TruckOSaurus said:
I'll stick with my early year estimate of about 130m. I'd be curious to hear from the "more than 140m" crowd to see how they get to that number.

By the end of this year it will be around 118 million units sold o customer.

End of March around 120 million units. Even PS3 sold around 11 million units after PS4 released.

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The PS3 sold less than 7.4 million after PS4 released.

"Sony Computer Entertainment Inc. (SCE) today announced that cumulative sales of the PlayStation®3 (PS3®) computer entertainment system has reached a milestone of 80 million units*1 worldwide as of November 2, 2013"

"As the PlayStation®4 computer entertainment system launches November 15, 2013 in North America and November 29, 2013 in Latin America and Europe, SCE will continue to expand the PlayStation ecosystem, which includes the continual support of gaming and digital entertainment content on PS3 systems."