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DonFerrari on 18 May 2020
Otter said:
DonFerrari said:

I wouldn't expect it

That is the joke, that the emulation with smart delivery that updates res and fps across the board have a better effect than an individual port one.

Given the gulf in specs between Xbox/Xbox 360 and Xbox One I think its actually reasonable. The Switch probably couldn't emulate the Wii U even if it wanted to.

What about PS4Pro and PCs not being much better than WiiU?



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AJNShelton on 18 May 2020
Vodacixi said:

What do you guys think about this?

You're absolutely right, this remaster is laughable and trash. If they cannot do the port job properly, maybe they should've just go for a remake, like Xenoblade DE.


Cause running low even on PS4 is not a good job, the Switch being the main platform.



Otter on 18 May 2020
DonFerrari said:
Otter said:

Given the gulf in specs between Xbox/Xbox 360 and Xbox One I think its actually reasonable. The Switch probably couldn't emulate the Wii U even if it wanted to.

What about PS4Pro and PCs not being much better than WiiU?

Console wise the PS4 version is 1080p with aliasing and a mostly stable 60. Thats a good step above the Wii U version and a solid "port" as oppose to remaster. There is no PS4 Pro mode to be quite frank which is lazy indeed.



kirby007 on 18 May 2020

they should have made it a remake

joke aside
this once again strengthens my feelings regarding remasters and remakes



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Mandalore76 on 18 May 2020
Barozi said:
JWeinCom said:

Pretty much every Wii U port to Switch has been at least 50.  I'm pretty sure all of Sony's PS3 to PS4 ports have launched at full price.  Aside from games that are significantly older, I can't recall many remasters launching for cheaper.  I'm sure there are some, but that's the exception.  

You couldn't be more wrong.

Nathan Drake Collection was $60 for 3 games.
God of War III Remastered was $40.
MediEvil was $30.
The Last of Us Remastered was $50 (1 year old port with all DLCs included).
Quantic Dream Collection was $40 for 3 games.

3rd party remasters were cheaper as well.

Collections of Spyro, Crash, Bioshock, Assassin's Creed Ezio Collection included 3 games each for a maximum of $60 ($20 a game).
Metro, Batman Arkham, Assassin's Creed III, Borderlands, FFX/X-2, Marvel Ultimate Alliance included 2 games often below $60.

Single remasters were usually between $20 and $40 but pretty much every one of them had meaty DLCs that were included.

Not arguing against the gist of your point, but MediEvil was a PS1 game, so it's weird to include it in an argument regarding pricing of PS4 remasters of PS3 games.



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DonFerrari on 18 May 2020
Mandalore76 said:
Barozi said:

You couldn't be more wrong.

Nathan Drake Collection was $60 for 3 games.
God of War III Remastered was $40.
MediEvil was $30.
The Last of Us Remastered was $50 (1 year old port with all DLCs included).
Quantic Dream Collection was $40 for 3 games.

3rd party remasters were cheaper as well.

Collections of Spyro, Crash, Bioshock, Assassin's Creed Ezio Collection included 3 games each for a maximum of $60 ($20 a game).
Metro, Batman Arkham, Assassin's Creed III, Borderlands, FFX/X-2, Marvel Ultimate Alliance included 2 games often below $60.

Single remasters were usually between $20 and $40 but pretty much every one of them had meaty DLCs that were included.

Not arguing against the gist of your point, but MediEvil was a PS1 game, so it's weird to include it in an argument regarding pricing of PS4 remasters of PS3 games.

MediEvil is a remake so it is a stronger point.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

CasePB on 18 May 2020

The PC version is also capped at 59fps not 60, so if you don't have gsync or freesync the game will not appear smooth at all.



Barozi on 18 May 2020
DonFerrari said:
Mr.GameCrazy said:

I really hope PlatinumGames patches the Switch version of the game so that we could run the game at 720p in docked mode. I care more about performance than 1080p.

I wouldn't expect it

Otter said:

I'm pretty sure that's from system wide emulation and they just individually play/test each title for adjustments. Not the same as porting an individual games code.

There's no doubt that this is a lazy port though

That is the joke, that the emulation with smart delivery that updates res and fps across the board have a better effect than an individual port one.

I've read a few things about what people think Smart Delivery is here on VGC and I don't think people are fully understanding the concept.

Smart Delivery means you can buy any one version you like (Xbox One or Series X) but you're able to play that game on either console as the console will decide what version to download. Smart Delivery therefore has nothing to do with emulation or graphics.

I think you're talking about the enhancements of emulated games like OG Xbox and 360 games on Xbox One. There might be similar enhancements of BC games on Series X but we don't know any details. These enhancements happen automatically due to the way the emulator works.

What we do know is that some future BC games will receive an Series X enhancement update much like the Xbox One X and PS4 Pro did. Comparable to 360 BC games that saw 4k patches on Xbox One X. These updates will be optimized to get the most out of the new console. However, there are still Xbox One games!



Drakrami on 18 May 2020

How dare you post something negative about a Nintendo game on a Nintendo fanboy dominated website. And even expect geniune feedback and discussion Where are your senses??

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AJNShelton on 18 May 2020
kirby007 said:

they should have made it a remake

You just stole my joke I made earlier