TMS prob cost less to develop as well. The W101 started as a Wii game as did Scalebound. Development started over for Wii U.
TMS prob cost less to develop as well. The W101 started as a Wii game as did Scalebound. Development started over for Wii U.
curl-6 said:
When I said "it was a flop" I referred to its original release, and even if the kickstarter recoups the porting costs that doesn't make the overall project not a failure. Collective sales for all versions will likely still be under a million and this isn't some cheap production. |
We don't have the numbers for both games so we can't really say it is or isn't a flop.
RolStoppable said:
Somebody else had asked why Nintendo gave green light for a Tokyo Mirage Sessions port to Switch, wondering why one low-selling game was approved while the other one was not. TMS may have not sold much either, but it still managed notably more than TW101, both as original release on the Wii U and as port for Switch. |
Ok.
duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363
Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994
Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."
DonFerrari said:
We don't have the numbers for both games so we can't really say it is or isn't a flop. |
We have numbers for the initial release, and we'll be able to tell from how low it shows up on the various sales charts whether the port performs similarly poorly.
At the end of the day, the fact neither Nintendo nor Platinum would fund a port really says it all.
curl-6 said:
We have numbers for the initial release, and we'll be able to tell from how low it shows up on the various sales charts whether the port performs similarly poorly. At the end of the day, the fact neither Nintendo nor Platinum would fund a port really says it all. |
From what was said in the thread the ports were all about ready, it was more like a scheme to get more money. But sure we can agree that it wasn't a success.
duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363
Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994
Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."
Xxain said:
You asked why Nintendo financed TMS but not W101. Platinum games approached Nintendo with the idea of a W101 multi plat port from the beginning (Platinum is pursuing a self publishing future) which is why Nintendo did not finance it but did for TMS, which performed much worse than W101. |
It did?
62.) The Wonderful 101 (Nintendo) 0.36m 15th Sep 13
65.) Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE (Nintendo) 0.33m 24th Jun 16
W101 released within the first year of the WiiU's launch. TMS released less than a year before the Switch launched, but had nearly the same lifetime sales. I wouldn't call that "much worse".
Mandalore76 said:
It did? 62.) The Wonderful 101 (Nintendo) 0.36m 15th Sep 13 65.) Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE (Nintendo) 0.33m 24th Jun 16 W101 released within the first year of the WiiU's launch. TMS released less than a year before the Switch launched, but had nearly the same lifetime sales. I wouldn't call that "much worse". |
And if someone say that TMS was a bigger flop but manage to receive funding for port, TW101 couldn't be said to not receive funding for port due to being a flop.
Also I'll say that over 10% pre-order (compared to the total on WiiU) for a game that didn't have critical reception, need to pay in advance, isn't groundbreaking, and is several years old is actually good number. Even more when the port is so badly made.
duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363
Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994
Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."