Forums - Nintendo Discussion - Nintendo quarterly results May 7th 2020 - Switch: 55.77m, (21m for the FY) Animal Crossing: 11.77m

scottslater said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:

Switch software is on fire.  Switch hardware is on fire too.  This is like NES and SNES days.  Their core IP is what is selling like crazy.  The Wii had to invent new games like Wii Sports and Wii Fit to sell big.  The DS even had big new IP like Nintendogs and Brain Age.  Sure Switch has new games like this too (1-2 Switch, etc...), but that isn't what is really selling.  Just look at how many games they have that are already "best selling in the series":

Super Smash Bros Ultimate (18.84m)
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (17.41m)
Super Mario Odyssey (17.41m) - best 3D mario
Animal Crossing: New Horizons (13.41m)
Splatoon 2 (10.31m)
Super Mario Party (10.1m)
Luigi's Mansion 3 (6.33m)
Super Mario Maker 2 (5.48m)

That is already 8 games which are the best selling in their series, and on top of that Mario Kart 8 D and Fire Emblem 3 Houses both stand a decent chance to claim that title too.  Switch software is really firing on all cylinders.  These aren't 1-system wonders like Brain Age created to sell to a brand new audience.  This is all established Nintendo IP.  Nintendo is making their core games to become top sellers: Zelda, Mario, Animal Crossing, Smash Bros, etc....  

And here is the thing.  Software sells hardware.  It is baffling to me how some people can be so bearish on Switch hardware sales.  It is the software that is selling at amazing levels.  If so many titles are selling at unprecedented numbers, then what does that say about hardware?  Unprecedented software sales logically lead to unprecedented hardware sales.  It's pretty simple really.

Yep, with that catalog of software already available in a short period of time the hardware will maintain strong sales for the next 3+ years.  Add in that less and less people seem to be impressed by Sony and Microsoft right now and I could really see the Switch having 3 years in a row of 20+ million hardware unit sales, possibly 4!

 

Playstation 4 just had a week over 300k and will have more in the coming months with several massive titles planned.

There are too many games you can't play on the Switch for a poor PS5/Series X showing to translate into Switch sales imo. 

Nintendo would have to work some serious software magic (or hardware magic) to sustain 20m+ beyond this FY. Titles like Mario Kart, new pokemon generation and Animal Crossing are once in a generation impacts.

Last edited by Otter - on 08 May 2020

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Otter said:
scottslater said:

Yep, with that catalog of software already available in a short period of time the hardware will maintain strong sales for the next 3+ years.  Add in that less and less people seem to be impressed by Sony and Microsoft right now and I could really see the Switch having 3 years in a row of 20+ million hardware unit sales, possibly 4!

 

Playstation 4 just had a week over 300k and will have more in the coming months with several massive titles planned.

There are too many games you can't play on the Switch for a poor PS5/Series X showing to translate into Switch sales imo. 

Nintendo would have to work some serious software magic (or hardware magic) to sustain 20m+ beyond this FY. Titles like Mario Kart, new pokemon generation and Animal Crossing are once in a generation impacts.

People have been parotting this point since 2018 lol.



Wyrdness said:

ACNH is already the best selling AC game btw

DAMN.



newwil7l said:
Otter said:

 

Playstation 4 just had a week over 300k and will have more in the coming months with several massive titles planned.

There are too many games you can't play on the Switch for a poor PS5/Series X showing to translate into Switch sales imo. 

Nintendo would have to work some serious software magic (or hardware magic) to sustain 20m+ beyond this FY. Titles like Mario Kart, new pokemon generation and Animal Crossing are once in a generation impacts.

People have been parotting this point since 2018 lol.

Do you have an opinion? 



So I lost my bet with somebody here. PM me dude.



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Otter said:
newwil7l said:

People have been parotting this point since 2018 lol.

Do you have an opinion? 

He's not wrong though what you posted is literally something some people said a year ago and also a year before that as well.



Wyrdness said:
Otter said:

Do you have an opinion? 

He's not wrong though what you posted is literally something some people said a year ago and also a year before that as well.

I'm not sure what we're talking about? If it's the point about once in a gen hardware pushers, I don't see how it would have applied in 2018 when we didn't even have a mainline pokemon game on the platform. That just arrive 5monthe before AC.

I'm curious what do people think the Switches next massive hardware pushing software is? These are largely predictable releases and they push hardware. I feel like all known quantities are out in one form or another, and I don't see sequels performing to the same degree especially not where hardware boosts are concerned.  

Theres a difference between the average Nintendo exclusive (lugi's mansion/ zelda links awakening) and then the likes of PokemonS&S/MarionKart 8/Animal crossing/Smash bros etc that's why I say they will need to work some software magic or hardware ($149 Switch TV)

I remember someone mentioning Switch sports in the past, that could definitely be huge. But I also wouldn't be surprised if it underwhelmed. Other Wii like titles (Ring fit/1,2 Switch, Labo) haven't set the world on fire.

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Otter said:

I'm not sure what we're talking about? If it's the point about once in a gen hardware pushers, I don't see how it would have applied in 2018 when we didn't even have a mainline pokemon game on the platform. That just arrive 5monthe before AC.

I'm curious what do people think the Switches next massive hardware pushing software is? These are largely predictable releases and they push hardware. I feel like all known quantities are out in one form or another, and I don't see sequels performing to the same degree especially not where hardware boosts are concerned.  

Theres a difference between the average Nintendo exclusive (lugi's mansion/ zelda links awakening) and then the likes of PokemonS&S/MarionKart 8/Animal crossing/Smash bros etc that's why I say they will need to work some software magic or hardware ($149 Switch TV)

I remember someone mentioning Switch sports in the past, that could definitely be huge. But I also wouldn't be surprised if it underwhelmed.

Basically your whole argument here is what someone before you has said in prior years and each time things turned out differently to what they thought that's what he's pointing out each time the same argument is adjusted for example before March many people didn't think AC was as big a system seller as they were told.

Your post here even contradicts itself as Zelda which you class as an average exclusive has been the NS' flagship title at one point the NS version had over 100% attach rate as more people owned it than the platform due the not being enough Switchs in stock.



newwil7l said:
Otter said:

 

Playstation 4 just had a week over 300k and will have more in the coming months with several massive titles planned.

There are too many games you can't play on the Switch for a poor PS5/Series X showing to translate into Switch sales imo. 

Nintendo would have to work some serious software magic (or hardware magic) to sustain 20m+ beyond this FY. Titles like Mario Kart, new pokemon generation and Animal Crossing are once in a generation impacts.

People have been parotting this point since 2018 lol.

Somebody dig out that thread with the pictures of Iwata and Pachter, where the latter is constantly ranting and tries to put a date on Nintendo's grave but constantly has to erase and replace it while Iwata is just chilling next to him. Just need to Switch (ha!) out the text and Iwata with their current president (or Doug Bowser) and voilà.

The pictures are not on the thread anymore, so I'll have to take an external source:

Was correct back then, and still true today...

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SKMBlake said:
Dyotropic said:
All the games with over 10 million copies sold have received DLC except super mario party. The one game that needed DLC the most.

Odyssey didn't get a DLC. Nor MK8D. Nor Pokémon Let's Go.

Odyssey received several updates including the balloon game dlc. 

Mario kart 8 deluxe includes the 2 dlc packs from mario kart 8 bundled in. (Port + dlc)

Pokemon let's go is a remake.