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Would you buy a cheap "playstation Tv" like version of the Switch?

Yes, and I'd buy a digita... 7 18.42%
 
No, I dislike digital, ev... 31 81.58%
 
Total:38

I prefer physical in general, but id do digital on a handheld before a home console. Digital only on a home console is dumb imo. That being said im continually trying to get myself in the mindset to go digital next gen. Less plastic and whatnot. No way Ill be buying launch day titles unfortuneately. $60+ for permission to play a game feels ludicrous to me.



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Cerebralbore101 said:
DonFerrari said:

Well the comparison for 50/50 is done on retail games also, basically was 20/80 the start of this gen and now is about 50/50 and soon to be 66/33.

Lots of Indies are retail in limited versions though. So I think you'd still have the effect of seeing a 10:1 digital to physical ratio for a lot of indies that have a limited edition physical retail version.

Don't get me wrong, I know physical game sales are plummeting. I just think the bean counters aren't seeing the forest for the trees. They aren't taking important factors into their equations. If we could do a digital:physical comparison between $60 games on PS4/XB1/Switch, that only included games in stock at most retailers, and include used games sales, I think we'd be sitting at around a 50:50 number right now.

But if you want to throw in Indies that don't really have physical versions outside of limited releases, PC games that are digital-only, games that are 5+ years old and not on store shelves anymore, I'm sure it's something like 70:30 in favor of digital sales.

Man, several games in the last couple years had reported opening week/month (retail 60USD games) of 50% digital, they were largely reported on VGC.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

CarcharodonKraz said:
I prefer physical in general, but id do digital on a handheld before a home console. Digital only on a home console is dumb imo. That being said im continually trying to get myself in the mindset to go digital next gen. Less plastic and whatnot. No way Ill be buying launch day titles unfortuneately. $60+ for permission to play a game feels ludicrous to me.

Agree with this.

All digital for portable, but I wouldn't have a problem with all physical for home consoles.

I skipped gaming from like 2010 until 2017 when I got a Switch, so I kinda missed the whole ramp up of digital games on video game systems for the most part. I had Virtual Console games on Wii and I think got Super Meat Boy on my 360 for the brief time I had it before I got rid of it, that was it. Then I get back into gaming less than 3 years ago and suddenly every game is available digitally haha, it was quite the change! But I can say I VASTLY prefer digital on the Switch over physical. I went to the store to get Zelda and Mario Kart the day I got my Switch, but only because it didn't even occur to me to get them digitally because that wasn't a thing during my gaming days. Then afterward I just found it annoying to have to switch out the game cartridges, so unless I'm buying a game specifically because I find it cheaper in a store I always go digital now. I think I have 5 physical games and probably close to 30 digital games, and honestly I wish I only had one physical game so I could have all games playable without every changing out a game. At this point I'd only buy a game physically if its file size was just huge so I can avoid having to eventually buy a second SD card beyond my 200gb one.

But yeah I feel like in a home system I wouldn't care about this. Because naturally I'm gonna have the games for the system like right near the system, and I'd rather not have go download games that take hours to download when I could just have them digitally. But for a portable like the Switch where I might be out with it and wanna Switch games or something, yeah I could totally just go all digital if a large amount of internal storage was given. Certainly having to uninstall games and re-download games would be an absolutely terrible experience so in a digital only system the internal storage would need to be decently sized. For Switch digital-only system I would expect at least 256gb internal storage, that way with a 256gb SD card added it'd be almost impossible to run out of space.



Slownenberg said:
CarcharodonKraz said:
I prefer physical in general, but id do digital on a handheld before a home console. Digital only on a home console is dumb imo. That being said im continually trying to get myself in the mindset to go digital next gen. Less plastic and whatnot. No way Ill be buying launch day titles unfortuneately. $60+ for permission to play a game feels ludicrous to me.

Agree with this.

All digital for portable, but I wouldn't have a problem with all physical for home consoles.

I skipped gaming from like 2010 until 2017 when I got a Switch, so I kinda missed the whole ramp up of digital games on video game systems for the most part. I had Virtual Console games on Wii and I think got Super Meat Boy on my 360 for the brief time I had it before I got rid of it, that was it. Then I get back into gaming less than 3 years ago and suddenly every game is available digitally haha, it was quite the change! But I can say I VASTLY prefer digital on the Switch over physical. I went to the store to get Zelda and Mario Kart the day I got my Switch, but only because it didn't even occur to me to get them digitally because that wasn't a thing during my gaming days. Then afterward I just found it annoying to have to switch out the game cartridges, so unless I'm buying a game specifically because I find it cheaper in a store I always go digital now. I think I have 5 physical games and probably close to 30 digital games, and honestly I wish I only had one physical game so I could have all games playable without every changing out a game. At this point I'd only buy a game physically if its file size was just huge so I can avoid having to eventually buy a second SD card beyond my 200gb one.

But yeah I feel like in a home system I wouldn't care about this. Because naturally I'm gonna have the games for the system like right near the system, and I'd rather not have go download games that take hours to download when I could just have them digitally. But for a portable like the Switch where I might be out with it and wanna Switch games or something, yeah I could totally just go all digital if a large amount of internal storage was given. Certainly having to uninstall games and re-download games would be an absolutely terrible experience so in a digital only system the internal storage would need to be decently sized. For Switch digital-only system I would expect at least 256gb internal storage, that way with a 256gb SD card added it'd be almost impossible to run out of space.

I run out of space with 4Tb on PS4 with over 100 games installed. I think Pemalite have over 12TB of game installed.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

JRPGfan said:
People dont seem that open to this concept.... I'll admit the biggest issue I have is the digital only part.
If it has a cartridge slot, and its super cheap... that would be the ideal switch for me.

Yeah needs cart support for me to consider a purchase.
My current Switch -never- gets taken out of the dock. The Joycons to me are terrible gaming input devices... Would be nice for a smaller, cheaper, convenient device that fits my gaming habits.

DonFerrari said:
Slownenberg said:

At this point I'd only buy a game physically if its file size was just huge so I can avoid having to eventually buy a second SD card beyond my 200gb one.

But yeah I feel like in a home system I wouldn't care about this. Because naturally I'm gonna have the games for the system like right near the system, and I'd rather not have go download games that take hours to download when I could just have them digitally. But for a portable like the Switch where I might be out with it and wanna Switch games or something, yeah I could totally just go all digital if a large amount of internal storage was given. Certainly having to uninstall games and re-download games would be an absolutely terrible experience so in a digital only system the internal storage would need to be decently sized. For Switch digital-only system I would expect at least 256gb internal storage, that way with a 256gb SD card added it'd be almost impossible to run out of space.

I run out of space with 4Tb on PS4 with over 100 games installed. I think Pemalite have over 12TB of game installed.

The Switch is also not as storage challenged, games are generally smaller... And if you buy Physical, not allot of data gets downloaded/installed to the console itself. I only just ran out of space on the 32GB internal memory after about a dozen physical titles.

I also have 20 Terabytes of space on the Xbox One X via external drives,  it's almost 70% full, so just over 14 Terabytes now of installed games.
My Xbox 360 has 2 Terabytes of Space and is 60% full.

Next-gen I will have a mechanical HDD for the Xbox, Xbox 360 and Xbox One X titles and use solid state for the Series X games, provided I don't opt for a Playstation 5 instead. Still on the fence... Really depends on how extensive the backwards compatibility is.




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Pemalite said:
JRPGfan said:
People dont seem that open to this concept.... I'll admit the biggest issue I have is the digital only part.
If it has a cartridge slot, and its super cheap... that would be the ideal switch for me.

Yeah needs cart support for me to consider a purchase.
My current Switch -never- gets taken out of the dock. The Joycons to me are terrible gaming input devices... Would be nice for a smaller, cheaper, convenient device that fits my gaming habits.

DonFerrari said:

I run out of space with 4Tb on PS4 with over 100 games installed. I think Pemalite have over 12TB of game installed.

The Switch is also not as storage challenged, games are generally smaller... And if you buy Physical, not allot of data gets downloaded/installed to the console itself. I only just ran out of space on the 32GB internal memory after about a dozen physical titles.

I also have 20 Terabytes of space on the Xbox One X via external drives,  it's almost 70% full, so just over 14 Terabytes now of installed games.
My Xbox 360 has 2 Terabytes of Space and is 60% full.

Next-gen I will have a mechanical HDD for the Xbox, Xbox 360 and Xbox One X titles and use solid state for the Series X games, provided I don't opt for a Playstation 5 instead. Still on the fence... Really depends on how extensive the backwards compatibility is.

Well he is thinking 256Gb of memory would suffice him on a digital only, and I just pointed that with 8x that memory I used all the memory of my PS4, so there isn't really a "with this memory I won't ever run out of memory".



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

As I said before, the home only switch is a real possibility that most would like and nintendo may consider, BUT it won't be digital only.
a card slot costs almost NOTHING to make. its not like the psp go, or the xbox one s. a disc drive has a lot of parts, exepnsive parts, which are also parts that can easily fail (laser, motor, drive belt).



TheBraveGallade said:
As I said before, the home only switch is a real possibility that most would like and nintendo may consider, BUT it won't be digital only.
a card slot costs almost NOTHING to make. its not like the psp go, or the xbox one s. a disc drive has a lot of parts, exepnsive parts, which are also parts that can easily fail (laser, motor, drive belt).

I agree from cost and size (it would be a console type device, and even smaller than Switch that isn't big) it doesn't make sense, but well companies like more profit and digital gives higher margin. PSPGo really was a failure, but seems like X1SAD did better (sure price have to do with it) still they got a big retaliation from stores because they don't get much margin from console and wouldn't get any on the SW this backlash even caused regular versions of Xbox to be removed from their shelves.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Making a digital only system with bugger all storage (Like 64GB) seems like the kinda nutty thing Nintendo might do.



I've been lurking on the r/nintendoswitch reddit for years. It seems a lot of people are getting second or even third switches for their households. People are getting switches as gifts for their significant others and even their significant others significant others (i.e. wive's son or wive's boyfriends).