I expect, as most do, 499 for each.
XBox is the machine with the stronger GPU. But PS5 has faster ssd and it has seemingly a crazy ssd-controller and audio-tech. Don't know as much about the XBox and am not a tech-guy anyways. So maybe the new XBox has something to match Sonys ssd- and audio-chip. But I also think Microsoft is more willing to eat the bigger loss.

I think 450 for PS5 and 500 for XSX.

Because you didn't understand what I wrote?

honestly everything on the xbox looks off the shelf, while the ps5 sounds more custom. With how cerny talked on the presentation, how debs are talking and all the shows where AMD said they where working closely with sony developing RDNA and never mentioned MS. granted theres still more to know of theese consoles, but what we have seen so far tells me sony invested more into R&D and as such cost of production might be lowered and they will make up the cost of R&D later on. My assumption at least, why I think a $100 cost of production diference is not crazzy. That MS would be willing to eat that cost to mach sony is a diferent matter. I dont think they will. While sony could eat $50 per console to drob it to $400, That would be crazzy to eat $150 per xbox.

Neither console has a dedicated audio chip. That would be way too expensive. Both the PS4 and the XBoxS have the audio circuitry in th SoC, and both PS5 and XSX will have the audio circuitry in their SoCs, too.

Yeah, totally, Cerny mentioned its capabilities being comparable to the Jaguar CPU in his tech talk. Quite impressive for my ears. Maybe I'm going to send a picture of them to Cerny.

I don’t think the controller will impact the price too much. Both standard current controllers are the same price and the ps4 controller has touchpad, light bar, and a speaker.

Going by the price of the one x on release at $499 I can see them both being around that price. Sony did keep the pro cheaper at $399 so they seem mindful of price, maybe they go $449. I’m not an expert on build price so just going off of what has happened before.

PS4 @ $400
XBOX SX @ $500

I thought about this as well, but I don't see it happening. This worked for AMD because existing Nvidia cards were already too expensive, and they didn't drop the price enough because they didn't have to based on the launch RDNA pricing. AMD then dropped the price even further before launch, on purpose apparently having baited Nvidia, leaving Nvidia looking like greedy idiots. They aren't called Ngreedia at times for nothing. How could Nvidia legitimately justify dropping their prices any further after the fact? All they would be telling consumers is that they don't give a crap about value, which AMD clearly does, while making Nvidia look bad at the same time.

When MS announces the XBSX price, if SNY matches it, then MS could drop the price and play if off as they were trying to bait SNY. However if SNY undercuts XBSX by any amount, if MS then matches that price before launch, all they would be telling consumers is that they don't care that much about value. It would mean that MS could have announced that lower price initially, but didn't, because of greed. That would not look good on them one bit, so MS would just keep the price as is.

If MS really cares about price as much as Phil is saying, then they will have to make the best possible offer they can from the start. That way it's also less likely that SNY undercuts them by much if at all. SNY could go hard and dig deep into their own pockets, but at that point MS couldn't really do anything price related anyway.

My first post for 4 years! Getting excited by the new generation!

The price is a tough one to call, and will not necessarily be the same differences as cost

I went for PS4 being $50 cheaper

Lots of interesting points raised in this thread, particularly that for example it's not impossible that the stronger part is actually cheaper, if they are custom designed development cost may be higher but you can maybe save on the BoM costs

Both are beasts - and we will be getting a lot for our money

I can't wait to see how they stack up to each other, where the bottlenecks lie, is the 1.5 Tf difference significant? Will the PS5's SSD and co-processors make it 'work harder' and bridge the gap? Etc...